The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Nephthys3,287 pages

'Marka Ragnos is a big poopy head with zero quantifiable feats beyond getting his ass kicked by a padawan.'

'RAAAAAAGGGGE!' gay_rage

Well, no, it'd be an essay to discuss his power level. Since I believe the evidence indicates Ragnos is pretty powerful, the essay would reflect that.

{Life's too short to write essays against fictional characters. We need to be a positive bunch!}

Well how about a character you actually like and would be pretty easy to write about?

Grievous? Dooku? Obi-Wan? Yoda? Etc Etc.

I don't like Obi-Wan. {Rare, innit?}

Who will be the next subject of research.... hmmm.... Who is a character that we {the forum} constantly disagree on in terms of power and skill?

A lot of people rate Caedus as being uber. OMG he fought Luke evenly! Well so did Lumiya, you don't see her getting hyped.

Also Grievous just because his powerlevel has changed so dramatically over the years.

Vader maybe?

Bastila. smurph

Mara Jade I guess.

Do an essay on Palleon. Research shows that he is actually one of the most powerful force users that ever lived.

Somewhat related, but I'd like to see a comprehensive work detailing King Adas, Marka Ragnos, Tulak Hord, and their respective reigns, as well as some actual detail into the Great Hyperspace War besides the 40 panels we saw in the comic. It's implied that Odan-Urr for example learned to use the Wall of Light in combat when the Jedi Order "mopped up" the Sith on Korriban and Ziost. This would also help establish the Sith Emperor as something other than a figurehead with no real personality, assuming he's included.

Another good thing would be a new rendition of TotJ/GAotS, featuring artwork of high caliber like the TOR website's timeline and some deep content, adding to and exploring one of the important highlights in the Republic and Sith's history.

Meh, I'd rather not learn about Tulak Hord and, to a lesser extent, King Adas. I think their exploits should be the stuff of legends rather than fact. However, I would be fine with learning more about Ragnos.

Also I agree, TotJ and GAotS are in need of a new rendition. The comics, specifically GAotS, were awful IMO.

My reasoning for Tulak is because at the moment, all our knowledge is second hand and possibly hyperbole. As for Adas, he's a huge figurehead in Sith history and in their continued existence up until the Dark Jedi arrived. To compare him to a real life figure, he would be the Chalemagne of Sith culture and I believe that his backstory, should it be told, should define and shape Sith values and traditions.

Admittedly, I somewhat agree that King Adas's story should be told as it is important but I like the idea of keeping him as a legendary figure. However, Tulak Hord doesn't seem to really be that important to Star Wars history; he just seems to be an incredibly powerful Sith Lord. Keeping him as this legendary figure is a good thing IMO plus they can go crazy with it like TOR seems to have done. I don't know I just sorta find it fun.

I dislike it when obviously important/pivotal characters are left ambiguous just so people can speculate about all the possible ways they might be badass.

There's two sides to it, sure. Leaving them ambiguous and legendary has its merits. No one wants to read a story about Robin Hood learning to hunt bunnies as a snot-nosed brat, or King Arthur suffering from dementia or being really a timid, miserable king. Sometimes removing the layers of mystery reveal a character that we find hard to respect. The Revan novel is treading in that territory.

For my perspective, I love history, and I love fleshing it out with foundations and truths. I find it questionable that we know more about relatively minor figures such as Freedan Nadd but know almost nothing about the most renowned warrior in Sith culture who defeated a space-going race with what I can only assume is a parachute and his battle axe.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
King Arthur suffering from dementia or being really a timid, miserable king.

Won't watch it.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Won't watch it.

You aren't missing much. Merlin's an idiot, Arthur is a Twilight castaway and Eva Green and Claire Forlani are the only reasons to watch.

Did you guys know that philosophers from the 1700s did the sort of line-by-line critiques that we use? Voltaire is opening up a can of hurt on Pascal, disagreeing with just about everything, even minor points of semantics. #lovephilosophy

Spoiler:
now i just have to figure out how to explain why this typifies Voltaire's view of France and/or England, especially in light of the impending revolution. #hatehistory

Originally posted by Zampanó
Did you guys know that philosophers from the 1700s did the sort of line-by-line critiques that we use? Voltaire is opening up a can of hurt on Pascal, disagreeing with just about everything, even minor points of semantics. #lovephilosophy

Spoiler:
now i just have to figure out how to explain why this typifies Voltaire's view of France and/or England, especially in light of the impending revolution. #hatehistory

But did they use Pwned pics and LOLCATS?

We are still superior.

Originally posted by Lucius
You aren't missing much. Merlin's an idiot, Arthur is a Twilight castaway and Eva Green and Claire Forlani are the only reasons to watch.
And James Purefoy. I was so happy when I heard he was in it/so sad when he no longer was.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And James Purefoy. I was so happy when I heard he was in it/so sad when he no longer was.

That dude from Resident Evil?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And James Purefoy. I was so happy when I heard he was in it/so sad when he no longer was.

"This monkey tried to kill me today." Promptly murders Pompey's son.