The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Nephthys3,287 pages

Actually most superheroes don't kill their supervillains due to laziness. Its easier to reuse villains than it is to come up with new ones every issue.

As I said:

Most superheroes don't kill their villains because of PIS, not because it's apart of their "code" to not kill people. It tends to be a plot point that is conveniently ignored by the writers, so you just have to use your suspension of disbelief.

Not having a villain die due to the villain's popularity is plot induced stupidity, child.

Blax, I agree with what you're saying with regards to comic!Batman: he's an unimaginably incompetent hero. But Baleman is silly because of problems unique to him, not because of his reluctance to save others.

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Jews!

Fox is a discussion-killer.

Originally posted by ChainOfLove
Blax, I agree with what you're saying with regards to comic!Batman: he's an unimaginably incompetent hero. But Baleman is silly because of problems unique to him, not because of his reluctance to save others.

Personally I would agree that it would be better to execute major threat villians myself. But I won't let that stop my enjoyment of comics just because I personally disagree with a few parts of it. I wouldn't say he's an incompetent hero at all. Dudes saved all of reality a few times and the planet more than I can count.

But I think you just overemphasise Balemans faults because you have some wierd bias against the movies. Probably because you watched them 10 times. I mean, Jesus Christ. Any movie would fall apart after about the 6th concesecutive viewing.

That problem with reusing villains is why I laud huge story arcs. One that goes on for many issues/episodes/films involving a core cast of heroes and villains creating and dealing with different scenarios and threats. When the Big Bad is finally caught and destroyed (for good, no revival bullshit), it means so much more.

Nephthys
Personally I would agree that it would be better to execute major threat villians myself. But I won't let that stop my enjoyment of comics just because I personally disagree with a few parts of it. I wouldn't say he's an incompetent hero at all. Dudes saved all of reality a few times and the planet more than I can count.

My suspension of disbelief is only so elastic. For example, I've detested much of Fate of the Jedi because of Daala's election to the office of Chief of State. Things like that are not easily overlooked for (or by?) me.

Nephthys
But I think you just overemphasise Balemans faults because you have some wierd bias against the movies. Probably because you watched them 10 times. I mean, Jesus Christ. Any movie would fall apart after about the 6th concesecutive viewing.

I very much enjoy Nolan's Dark Knight saga so I'm not sure how I'm biased against it. I'm just cognizant of its faults (like any other story) and openly criticize them accordingly.

I don't think I've ever seen you say anything actually good about the saga.

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He wants you to shove a brick up his bum.

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I just realized that both the protagonists of the Assassins Creed series (Ezio and Al-tair) suffer from the Batman syndrome. They will not kill their biggest enemies under any circumstances, and as a result, end up causing more harm than good.

Ezio not killing that Pope was really ****ing stupid. Especially given that he'd murdered a bunch of innocent Vatican gaurds just to get to him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ezio not killing that Pope was really ****ing stupid. Especially given that he'd murdered a bunch of innocent Vatican gaurds just to get to him.
Al-tair also doesn't kill Abas, who is responsible for his wife's death, as well as the downfall of the Assassin Order. Well, until the very end, when it really means nothing.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He wants you to shove a brick up his bum.

Get your mind out of the gutter!

And preferably out of mine as well.

Originally posted by ChainOfLove
Well that's just the problem with comics in general. I don't know how you people like 'em at all.

It's probably the most unrefined of all the storytelling mediums but there are some genuinely good reads to be found within it; the works of Alan Moore and Frank Miller are all great and The Sandman by Neil Gaiman just about stands among some of the finest pieces of fantasy fiction ever written.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In the first one Xavier says that Magneto helped him build Cerebro, except in FC we see that Beast built it by himself. Also despite Xavier and Mystique growing up together they never interact in the other movies.

Just minor inconsistencies. Im sure we can point out inconsistencies like that in the Star Wars prequels.

Originally posted by Eminence
In addition to what's been posted above: X-Men has Charles testifying that his first meeting with Erik occurred at age seventeen, and in X2 we see an interview with a very Caucasian Hank McCoy (although I suppose this could be explained away somehow), so there are still a couple of inconsistencies left over here and there.

Also Christian Bale got a lot bigger in Batman Begins than I've given him credit for.

Again minor screw ups. The Hank Mcoy scene does not really go too well with X3 either. Im sure we wern't supposed to believe he just became a blue fur ball recently.

The director said he was more bothered about just making a good movie than having everything exactly right in terms of it being a prequel.