The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Darth Ray Park3,287 pages

Anybody here played assassins creed would be able to recomend a book for me to read on the third crusades? I played AC recently and i really liked the setting and background history.

Same with story of King Arthur as well, really interested in these two pieces of ancent history.

I know jack crap aboot history literature.

Me too it is notr my forte but there a few periods im really interested in like the crusades, the story of king arthur, the time period of the game of thrones and ancient greek myhtology.

I do not. Not many books are set during the Third Crusade, because if there was, it would have to pick a side, which would offend one of the 2 biggest religions on the planet. (I believe they are the biggest 2. I know Chrisitanity is number 1 in numbers) And no author wants to offend an entire religion.

Just watch one of the countless documentaries on YouTube.

Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
Same with story of King Arthur as well, really interested in these two pieces of ancent history.

Regarding the Third Crusade? No idea. The only Crusade-related media I am aware of that's good is Kingdom of Heaven, director's cut. Maybe scour Wikipedia.

As for King Arthur, this depends on what you're looking for: entertainment, hypothetical history versions, or classic. The Once and Future King is the best retelling of King Arthur I can recommend to anyone, but it is very non-traditional. If you're looking for raw action or true-to-historical settings it may not satisfy; however, it is a superior work in terms of character development, symbolism, and philosophy.

If you want more classical, try Le Morte d'Artur, by Sir Thomas Mallory. You can find it in both King James English and standard. It reads very simply and the prose is certainly archaic (that is, it doesn't flow like a standard novel; more like a collection of stories most likely retold in court) but it is the chief source of the Arthurian mythos that trickled down into present day and is a personal favorite.

Howard Pyle also does a King James English retelling of Mallory with more fantasy elements and characterization. The works are easy to find on Nook/Barnes and Noble or Amazon for a small sum, or Gutenberg library iirc. The learning curve of reading the English is rough, but once you overcome it, the reading style is far more enjoyable.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Regarding the Third Crusade? No idea. The only Crusade-related media I am aware of that's good is Kingdom of Heaven, director's cut.

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You should watch this, Park.

I'm confused.

Oh. I didn't know you guys could flat out delete posts.

Well... That was fast.

Edit: And the post was deleated and now I look like an idiot.

It was okay, but not great, imo. I struggled to get past the first half hour (in fact, I think I failed).

Also, they can edit your posts without it leaving that little notification at the bottom that says who edited it. Curiouser and curiouser. I also now look like an idiot.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Regarding the Third Crusade? No idea. The only Crusade-related media I am aware of that's good is Kingdom of Heaven, director's cut. Maybe scour Wikipedia.

As for King Arthur, this depends on what you're looking for: entertainment, hypothetical history versions, or classic. The Once and Future King is the best retelling of King Arthur I can recommend to anyone, but it is very non-traditional. If you're looking for raw action or true-to-historical settings it may not satisfy; however, it is a superior work in terms of character development, symbolism, and philosophy.

If you want more classical, try Le Morte d'Artur, by Sir Thomas Mallory. You can find it in both King James English and standard. It reads very simply and the prose is certainly archaic (that is, it doesn't flow like a standard novel; more like a collection of stories most likely retold in court) but it is the chief source of the Arthurian mythos that trickled down into present day and is a personal favorite.

Howard Pyle also does a King James English retelling of Mallory with more fantasy elements and characterization. The works are easy to find on Nook/Barnes and Noble or Amazon for a small sum, or Gutenberg library iirc. The learning curve of reading the English is rough, but once you overcome it, the reading style is far more enjoyable.

Nice! Thanks a lot bro. I think I'll check out all three.

You should watch this, Park.

Already seen in, lol.

Just watch one of the countless documentaries on YouTube.

Do you know if Loius Theroux does one?>

I do not. Not many books are set during the Third Crusade, because if there was, it would have to pick a side, which would offend one of the 2 biggest religions on the planet. (I believe they are the biggest 2. I know Chrisitanity is number 1 in numbers) And no author wants to offend an entire religion.

Hmm. interesting. I was able to find one book that looks o.k. would you say it looks leggit?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Warriors-God-Richard-Lionheart-Saladin/dp/0571210627/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1338681145&sr=8-2

I've read about 12 crusades books over the past few years and the first one has always been my favorite. The only reason anyone talks about the 3rd one is because Richard is such a polarizing figure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6e9nokg1NQ&feature=related

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Originally posted by Lionheart123
I've read about 12 crusades books over the past few years and the first one has always been my favorite. The only reason anyone talks about the 3rd one is because Richard is such a polarizing figure.

Nice. I'm only actually interest in the third crusades just from playing assassins creed and so i can understand some of the background a bit better before i go into AC2.

BTW no if this ones any good?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Crusades-Authoritative-History-Holy/dp/0060787295/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338735110&sr=8-1

Edited - This one is a general one on the entire crusades.

man remember the evolution/creation debates? How about this article?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/02/gallup-poll-46-of-americans-believe-in-creationism-over-science-republicans-even-more-so/

anyone surprised how high this number is?

The creationist viewpoint “wins” among Americans with less than a postgraduate education.

This is not surprising.

The idea that undergraduates might stick with creationism is a bit appalling, though not surprising given how narrow college education ends up being for most students.

Edit:
Which one are you?
http://i.imgur.com/YyOLB.jpg
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So... shit's going down in Westeros next year.

Will be watching it when it downloads. 🙂

Best TV Show ever.