Fine sir I know not of what you speak...
Spoiler:
since apparently being a fan of MGS is all the evidcbene the GW fangirl needs to ban somebody for being a sock...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=515006&pagenumber=50
Originally posted by Nephthys
Persona makes you quantifiably wrong and also insane and a dumb butt.
I have really been meaning to playing these games by the way though that being said while I thought Catherine was awesome it was certainly no MGS.
Plus I am currently playing the most games I have ever played at the same time, so I'd have to get through Skyrim, replaying KotOR 2, kingdom hearts, final fantasy xiii-2, and some 3ds games first.
Originally posted by TheOneOfMortisSubtlety.
Name one area of videogameing that MGS is nor expert in please.
A character with a genius IQ actually acting like he has a genius IQ (Mostly Liquid).
Subtlety in general.
Seamlessly weaving cutscenes and gameplay (brb thirty minute cutscene incoming).
"Can love bloom Snake? Even on a battlefield?"
"THIS IS JUST LIKE ONE OF MY JAPANESE ANIMES."
Also, Raiden's wangst-fest.
Granted, some of these things I mentioned could be argued to be part of the series's charm. It's funny, you take the series way more seriously than even Kojima does.
Well you is just listing random criteria and as you yourself mention most of it is not necessarily bad. What I mean is stuff like gameplay, storyline, graphics, music. MGS is only series that is 10/10 calibre in every catagory.
"Seamlessly weaving cutscenes and gameplay (brb thirty minute cutscene incoming)."
Psycho Mantis battle? Fission Mailed? Splitscreen cutscene/boss battle in MGS4? The microwave scene in MGS4? Battle with the Sorrow? Using the codec? NOt to mention QTE and cinematic actions. MGS has the best of both worlds, the best gameplay/story interaction, and the best scripoted cutscenes.
Originally posted by TheOneOfMortis
That is not a good reason. MGS is the Mozart of videogames, the best there is and ever will vbe, with Team Ico a close second.
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MGS. Mozart. No. MGS is not the best. No game is THE best.
It's personal opinion. Hell. I enjoy RTS games much more than say.. Halo, and I've never liked MGS. Too many cutscenes, too much Raidenfest.
Originally posted by UltimateAnomaly
!MGS. Mozart. No. MGS is not the best. No game is THE best.
It's personal opinion. Hell. I enjoy RTS games much more than say.. Halo, and I've never liked MGS. Too many cutscenes, too much Raidenfest.
It is all opinion but on paper no game has more going for it than MGS series.
Namely: it invented an entiree genre of gaming, stealth, and innovates on it with each installment (which it continues to do, as the next game in the series, ground zeroes, is going to be the first ever stealth/openworld game), it has movie like production values with people from the movie bus such as the composer Harry Gregson Williams (who is one of the veyr best movie composers) working on it, it has numerous characters with unique backstories and idealogies, very unqiue setting and technologies explroed in the game, and probably some of the most imaginative gaming/storyline integration of all time, a lot of which involve breaking the 4th wall which MGS probably does better than any othe rpiece of literature... not to mention things like for each installment typically the greatest graphics ever produce for a console game at the time, its story is beloved by its fans, so is its voice actors, so are the boss battles, and Hideo Kojima injects more quirkiness and numour into the games than probably any other gameing director.
These are all facts, and the point is that there are thigns notable about MGS in every catagory of gaming (visuals, sound, gameplay, storyline, story/gameplay interation). In fact you could make an argument that it has the best gameplay for any series, AND the best story (and really that should not be up for debate, the story kills anything else in gaming and realistically only competes with the top movies, novels and manga), and on top of that it has Harry Gresgon Williams on the soundtrack, and at the time of each release the most groundbreaking graphics for a console release at the time (in fact MGS4, which came out in 2008, still looks better than most stuff released today).
MGS = hollywood like production values with the unique ideas and detail of the greatest science fiction novels, with the flair and quirkiness of a manga. + arguably one of the best and most influential gaming series of all time. How does anything else even approach that?
Originally posted by NemeBro
"Random criteria" lol.See, those things I listed are some of many reasons why MGS frankly can't be the best in everything. It doesn't have a 10/10 in any category.
All of that is outweighed by the whole stopping the action for multiple half hours at a time for EXPOSITION.
Also, QTEs suck.
that would be like saying, "Skyrim is not a 10/10 game because it does not have cars". Random criteria is meanimgless. You have to look at the general components of a videogame to see what it offers in each, nothing random or insignificant. It is 10/10 calibre in gameplay, story, sound, and even graphics at the time of release.
Plus I know you are a fan anyway as you already said you are so I'm guessing you have another game in mind for beign the best, yes? Skyrim? lol... please.
Agreed about QTEs which were only included in Peace Walker, just giving you an example bro. What I meant by cinematic actions is being able to control where your character is looking and focusing on certain details in the cutscenes which you have been able to do since MGS3. That does make them slightly interactive.
Edit - And what is more impressive is how so much abotu what is right about MGS can be identficied with a single man: Hideo Kojima. he created the series, he conceives and writes the storyline, he designs the gameplay, and if you look at the credits he has numerous tehcnical roles in the games as well. Greatest videogame designer of all time.