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Yeah, that's the message that it feels like they tacked on at the end in order to have something of a point. They did it at the expense of a host of undeveloped characters, stories, and themes. There was no proper explanation as to the nature of this eternal connection between certain people, there was no expansion on the significance of the Cloud Atlas sextet, no development in the apocalyptic scenario, no exploration of the Blade Runner-esque world, and some contrived anti-corporate/anti-Big Oil message clumsily thrown in for no good reason.

And they buggered up the slave/slaver story. The whole time it felt like they were establishing a bond between the two--like the "connection" wasn't always about romantic love but could also manifest as friendship--I thought that was a neat turn to take. But in the end, nope. It was all about the (ex)-slaver and his wife whom we don't meet until the last five minutes of the film. That one was especially character-driven, so it really ticked me off.

The whole film felt like a big presentation for a really cool, complex thesis that completely lacked any meaningful explanation or development. So in order to wrap up, they simply said "Oh. It was love." A great premise, and visually amazing, but one helluva freakin' letdown.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah, that's the message that it feels like they tacked on at the end in order to have something of a point. They did it at the expense of a host of undeveloped characters, stories, and themes. There was no proper explanation as to the nature of this eternal connection between certain people, there was no expansion on the significance of the Cloud Atlas sextet, no development in the apocalyptic scenario, no exploration of the Blade Runner-esque world, and some contrived anti-corporate/anti-Big Oil message clumsily thrown in for no good reason.

And they buggered up the slave/slaver story. The whole time it felt like they were establishing a bond between the two--like the "connection" wasn't always about romantic love but could also manifest as friendship--I thought that was a neat turn to take. But in the end, nope. It was all about the (ex)-slaver and his wife whom we don't meet until the last five minutes of the film. That one was especially character-driven, so it really ticked me off.

The whole film felt like a big presentation for a really cool, complex thesis that completely lacked any meaningful explanation or development. So in order to wrap up, they simply said "Oh. It was love." A great premise, and visually amazing, but one helluva freakin' letdown.

See but that's precisely what I got; "saw" when just watching the trailer.

I saw how it was going to be.

It looked visually beautiful but hollow and in a way, stupid.

But remember - we live in an era where classical integrity has died in films.

It died decades ago.

Originally posted by Zampanó
In a case like this, there's not much I can say to change your opinion. But I would've thought that the entire point was to take a look at the ways that people keep hurting each other. We keep messing things up, and it's all very human of us. But the universe doesn't have to be that way; humanity keeps going and we always have the chance to do it right tomorrow. Eventually, sometimes, we get what we need.

This is kinda how I felt about the film.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah, that's the message that it feels like they tacked on at the end in order to have something of a point. They did it at the expense of a host of undeveloped characters, stories, and themes. There was no proper explanation as to the nature of this eternal connection between certain people, there was no expansion on the significance of the Cloud Atlas sextet, no development in the apocalyptic scenario, no exploration of the Blade Runner-esque world, and some contrived anti-corporate/anti-Big Oil message clumsily thrown in for no good reason.

And they buggered up the slave/slaver story. The whole time it felt like they were establishing a bond between the two--like the "connection" wasn't always about romantic love but could also manifest as friendship--I thought that was a neat turn to take. But in the end, nope. It was all about the (ex)-slaver and his wife whom we don't meet until the last five minutes of the film. That one was especially character-driven, so it really ticked me off.

The whole film felt like a big presentation for a really cool, complex thesis that completely lacked any meaningful explanation or development. So in order to wrap up, they simply said "Oh. It was love." A great premise, and visually amazing, but one helluva freakin' letdown.

I do feel they came just short of tying everything together , but I felt they did enough to make me understand the overall message. It was such an ambitious film that I appreciated the undertaking. Also, the acting and the visuals were sweet.

And I loved the slaver/slave story. That was probably my favorite. I think the whole point of that was that act of kindness, that friendship, is what "births the future" in the revolution in the distant future.

Would you say film is quite similar to The Fountain?

Originally posted by -kV-
I do feel they came just short of tying everything together , but I felt they did enough to make me understand the overall message. It was such an ambitious film that I appreciated the undertaking. Also, the acting and the visuals were sweet.

And I loved the slaver/slave story. That was probably my favorite. I think the whole point of that was that act of kindness, that friendship, is what "births the future" in the revolution in the distant future.

And the slave/slaver story was the best part of that. The whole film had been establishing the relationship of two people throughout time, usually in the form of romantic love. So it was great to see them focusing this time on friendship instead--the connection manifesting not between two lovers, but between the slaver and the runaway slave. But they threw that out the window when they introduced the slaver's wife at the end and told us that she was the one the slaver was connected to. The slave himself was just apropos. That was so f*cking frustrating!

This movie would have been great as an hour-long six-part TV miniseries. That would have given plenty of time to develop each story and relationship, instead of rushing and half-assing everything that wasn't involved with the visual department.

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Amazing dual, imo.

Also, Obi-Wan was clearly holding his own against Maul there up until he started tapping into the dark side, Jessiah's anti-Obiwan bias withstanding. 313

God, yes, I fvcking hate Obi-Wan he makes me so mad I just want to shave that ugly beard off his fat stupid head and yell at him and tell him how stupid and fat his head is

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Amazing dual, imo.

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Originally posted by Eminence
There are so many good ones. Dooku's duel with Ventress and the Nightsisters remains a panty dropper.

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You're telling me.

I fvcked Blax's mom to this video.

That video is dumb. Whats the point of being invisible if they use lightsabers? You STUPID IDIOTGSSOMFG!

Nephthys
That video is dumb. Whats the point of being invisible if they use lightsabers? You STUPID IDIOTGSSOMFG!

Then why are the still invisible when they get there?

This is why I don't watch that festering piece of trash series. Its for little babies who poop in their diapers.

I personally feel like the SW cartoons just closed the door on the believability of SW. I mean some of the EU stuff was getting a tad "out there", but with the creation of The Ones, I stopped paying attention.

On the plus side for the show, we actually get to see some... genuine feeling dark moments from Anakin, and a few machinations by Palpatine. Those are fun.

Krell.

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although you're missing out if that's all you see of this arc.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That video is dumb. Whats the point of being invisible if they use lightsabers? You STUPID IDIOTGSSOMFG!

They're concealed from sight in order to penetrate Dooku's recsanctum undetected as well as conceal their identities from him. They use the lightsabers in order to deceive Dooku into thinking the attack was Jedi-sponsored, rather than orchestrated by a vengeful Ventress. This was by Talzin's design: Dooku survives the attack, but fears further Jedi reprisals and so seeks Talzin out to supply him with a new assassin/bodyguard.

Jesus, you guys can't recognise a damn joke. So defensive over your crappy show. 😛

Still doesn't really make sense since the no PT-era Jedi can turn invisible that we know of, which Dooku should know. Plus since when have Jedi used poison and night-time assassination?

The show is all right.

Clearly the Jedi possess gifts we do not see explored in the totality of the series. Moreover, Jedi are not morally infallible (ask Karen Traviss!) and clearly Dooku believes that they could be driven to such lengths.

I mean, Dooku does it all the time and he was a Jedi for a long ass time.

Originally posted by Eminence
Krell.

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although you're missing out if that's all you see of this arc.

The Clone Wars drinking game involves taking a shot for every regurgitated line from one of the six films.

You'll be wasted half-way through the 2nd episode.