The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Nephthys3,287 pages
Originally posted by Zampanó
Bilbo still has to
Spoiler:
betray literally everybody
so there is character development to be had!

TBF

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everybody
had it coming. estahuh

That Bilbo is already going nuts over the Ring after just finding it a few weeks ago bothered me. He has that f*cker for another 60 years; at the rate it's driving him crazy, he should have murdered the Shire by the time LotR starts. Gandalf's line of "The Ring has awoken" apparently was 77 years too late.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That's because you're an idiot.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
That Bilbo is already going nuts over the Ring after just finding it a few weeks ago bothered me. He has that f*cker for another 60 years; at the rate it's driving him crazy, he should have murdered the Shire by the time LotR starts. Gandalf's line of "The Ring has awoken" apparently was 77 years too late.

I don't remember this adequately explained in the books but how in the blue hell does Gollum not age after not having the ring for 60 years? Look what happened to Bilbo after he gave the ring to frodo, and this was after what, a month or two?

Originally posted by psmith81992
I don't remember this adequately explained in the books but how in the blue hell does Gollum not age after not having the ring for 60 years? Look what happened to Bilbo after he gave the ring to frodo, and this was after what, a month or two?
I don't think it was explained at all. Bilbo at age 111 tremendously in just 21 years. Gollum aged 500+ didn't age at all, it seems, in the roughly 77 years between The Hobbit and the Fellowship's formation. I'm sure there's some bullshit explanation somewhere, but it really makes no sense.

In the books it's a lot better explained although the intro to IIRC The Two Towers film explains that Gollum is given unnaturally long life. It stretches out one's essence. Gollum changed rapidly during his 'normal' lifespan while in possession of the ring, but seemed to become static afterwards. The books mention that Bilbo looks ridiculously young for his age, and the movies don't do that justice in comparison. Also, the time between Frodo getting the ring and leaving the Shire is measured in years, not a few weeks or whatnot as implied in the film, so the way it takes hold of him is far more credible.

Yeah it was at the beginning of Fellowship, Galadriel's voice-over says he has long life. But same with Bilbo-- the film made clear. And once he lost the Ring, he began to age quickly and appropriately. Gollum was 5x Bilbo's age when he lost the Ring, and went much longer without it. But instead of aging in to dust, he remained the same for 3/4 of a century.

I'm not sure if Bilbo aged in the book. I'd have to double check. However, Gollum had the ring a lot longer than Bilbo did.

Indeed. Many types of beings who've had a ring that long become full-on wraiths. It's probably only Gollum's hobbit nature and lack of ambition that kept him so- he rarely wore the ring, he just held it.

New favorite image:

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
New favorite image:

Greatest image ever.

I thought so too.

http://starwarsfans.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Brandon_Rhea/Is_This_the_End_of_the_Expanded_Universe%3F

boom boom boom

Redoing post-ROTJ EU is okay with me. I was never attached anyways.

I'm attached, but Legacy 1 was a fairly good ending point, and if Legacy 2 has a good wrap-up, then ah well, at least we get an ending, y'know?

Originally posted by Tzeentch
http://starwarsfans.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Brandon_Rhea/Is_This_the_End_of_the_Expanded_Universe%3F

boom boom boom

We all knew it was going to happen. Just a matter of when...

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Redoing post-ROTJ EU is okay with me. I was never attached anyways.

I'd be surprised if they didn't just erase all of the EU and start with a blank slate.

It's not like an EU can be 'erased'.

They can make a new, separate EU, but that'll just mean two continuities, y'know?

Fun fact: Star Trek had a TOS/Animated series based EU continuity called 'Star Fleet Battles' created before TNG came out that lasted into the 2010s and got multiple video games.

That's true in a vacuum. For the purposes of the vs. forum though, if they came out and said "everything past RotJ is now N-Canon" we wouldn't really have any choice but to look at that in the same we light we look at the what-ifs and visionary comics.

Originally posted by Q99
It's not like an EU can be 'erased'.

They can make a new, separate EU, but that'll just mean two continuities, y'know?

Fun fact: Star Trek had a TOS/Animated series based EU continuity called 'Star Fleet Battles' created before TNG came out that lasted into the 2010s and got multiple video games.

TNG is the only real ST series. Don't be fooled.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
That's true in a vacuum. For the purposes of the vs. forum though, if they came out and said "everything past RotJ is now N-Canon" we wouldn't really have any choice but to look at that in the same we light we look at the what-ifs and visionary comics.

Troof.