The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Tzeentch3,287 pages

I would kill for Katee Sackhoff to have a role in a Star Wars film.

Not at all down with a "everything is equally canon" policy. I get enough headaches with that from the Warhammer 40K universe.

Originally posted by Petrus

And DP, alright but if [and only if] Disney does a significantly better job at not fvcking up continuity and create silly contradictions, it won't be necessary to differentiate levels of canon. Also, as long as the previously stated canon material remains canon [aside from Post-RotJ stuff] or isn't contradicted by Disney's new material, I don't see why it should be a big issue.

The whole reason there were different levels of canon up until now was that there were blatant contradictions. And Lucas himself would differentiate his Canon from EU Canon.

But it seems as if Disney is taking the whole canon thing more seriously. If they're putting a Star Wars product out there, they want it all to be part of the same continuity.

I'm sure there will still be screw ups. But at least now a screw up will be just that- a screw up, and not an intentionally and knowingly ignoring other canon.

Also according to this article:

http://www.themarysue.com/star-wars-clone-wars-finale/

they're deciding what stuff that's already been done will be included in the new canon policy, and what won't be:

In other news, Lucasfilm and Disney are busy working on a “story group” to help figure out what’s official canon out of the estimated 65 billion Star Wars creations in the universe.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I would kill for Katee Sackhoff to have a role in a Star Wars film.

Not at all down with a "everything is equally canon" policy. I get enough headaches with that from the Warhammer 40K universe.

I had no idea who she was until Google, but she's hot.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The whole reason there were different levels of canon up until now was that there were blatant contradictions. And Lucas himself would differentiate his Canon from EU Canon.

But it seems as if Disney is taking the whole canon thing more seriously. If they're putting a Star Wars product out there, they want it all to be part of the same continuity.

I'm sure there will still be screw ups. But at least now a screw up will be just that- a screw up, and not an intentionally and knowingly ignoring other canon.

Also according to this article:

http://www.themarysue.com/star-wars-clone-wars-finale/

they're deciding what stuff that's already been done will be included in the new canon policy, and what won't be:

In other news, Lucasfilm and Disney are busy working on a “story group” to help figure out what’s official canon out of the estimated 65 billion Star Wars creations in the universe.

Well, the problem I have with that is exactly as you said; we have a tiered canon specifically to deal with inconsistencies. If they're removing that and making "everything canon", how do we deal with inconsistencies that crop up in the future? I don't like the idea of having to provide an argument for why some dumb shit we see in some Wii-U Star Wars dance game shouldn't be held on the same standard as something we see in the movies, as an extreme example.

I think they are just blowing smoke. After all, say a decade later Disney decides to do some more movies. Do you really expect that this so called "Story Group" is going to tell their Disney Bosses that they can't do that because of some obscure comic that came came out in 2016 and that the bosses would care? I sure as hell don't.

I think it's a given that the Suits are above canon.

I'm more concerned with everything that exists below the movies. In the current system, the movies are canon-king, and everything else below it is ordered into a hierarchy. Under the new system (as I understand it), the movies will still be canon-king (perhaps unofficially), while everything below it is a free-for-all. Doesn't sound too fun.

Well that's sorta how it works now. It goes movies, TV shows, and then everything else.

Not necessarily. There is a clear distinction made between game mechanics and plotlines of a game, for example, and chronology of release defining whether something gets dribbled down to S-Canon or not. And then you have N-Canon from there for comic books and storylines that make no sense within the continuity or contradict too many things.

It isn't just a matter of movies -> TV shows -> comics, games, books and then nothing. The lower-levels of the tiers exist specifically to regulate everything below the shows, which is nice.

I'm glad Leland Chee is staying onboard. Hopefully he'll still answer canon inconsistencies on a case-by-case basis. That's all I really ask.

Fair enough. I just assumed they would keep most of that as well. There will still be N-Canon stories and I doubt that game mechanics will be considered canon.

http://static.cinemarx.ro/poze/persoane-poze/2009/03/Katee_Sackhoff_1238288940_0.jpg

So much manface.

Isn't that your thing? I mean, she practically emulates the unibrow Thor avatar you have going on. Her arms are also similarly under-developed. It'd be like shagging a mirror.

My avatar is not my waifu. Do I look like Blaxican to you?

Thor's not your waifu?

Blatant lies.

Hey Janus, my business is booming again which allows me an hour or so a day to play video games. I was (and I can't believe I'm saying this) thinking about getting back into TOR. Is it worth it?

Sauron < Morgoth < Ungoliant < Melian < Sauron < Morgoth

Oh Tolkien, you're a dumb mother****er.

You're calling the creator of his own story a dumb mother ****er? Interesting.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Hey Janus, my business is booming again which allows me an hour or so a day to play video games. I was (and I can't believe I'm saying this) thinking about getting back into TOR. Is it worth it?

I think so, but then I got distracted with the new expansion for ST😮, so I may not be back on it for awhile.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sauron < Morgoth < Ungoliant < Melian < Sauron < Morgoth

Oh Tolkien, you're a dumb mother****er.

LOLWUT.

Sauron is weaker than Morgoth, who was overpowered by Ungoliant, who could not get past the Girdle of Melian. Melian is a Maiar, which Sauron is more or less the mightiest of, and Morgoth is of course more powerful than Sauron.

Oh, you can insert the Valar somewhere here too, below Ungoliant.

You forget that Ungoliant overpowered Melkor after draining the Trees, and she was explicitly swollen.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Not necessarily. There is a clear distinction made between game mechanics and plotlines of a game, for example, and chronology of release defining whether something gets dribbled down to S-Canon or not. And then you have N-Canon from there for comic books and storylines that make no sense within the continuity or contradict too many things.

It isn't just a matter of movies -> TV shows -> comics, games, books and then nothing. The lower-levels of the tiers exist specifically to regulate everything below the shows, which is nice.

I'm glad Leland Chee is staying onboard. Hopefully he'll still answer canon inconsistencies on a case-by-case basis. That's all I really ask.

I'd welcome the new pan-canon if it means that a good chunk of the EU gets purged. Ripping out some of the zanier and older stuff to support consistency.