Originally posted by Stealth MooseHow could you hate Joss Whedon while also liking Obsidian's writing?
While I think Obsidian is more capable of morally ambiguous and mature writing than Bioware, the fact remains that Mass Effect is a masterpiece in terms of pathos, word building, quality, immersion, and novelty. KotOR doesn't excel in any of these areas in comparison.
I mean, I like both, but they're very similar, from what I've said.
AC is a good series, it just isn't nearly as good as you seem to think it is.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Ah I see you enjoy juvenile wish-fulfillment Mary Sue protagonists and boring, nondescript supporting characters.
Nah, I prefer games that have interesting plots, good gameplay, and where decisions actually matter.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Give me a good laugh and explain to me how Dragon Age was derivative (This is the proper spelling by the way).
You're kidding right? There is almost nothing unique about the Dragon Age world... The plot is pretty much the generic standard fantasy fare.
One of the most blatant examples is that the Mages are rip offs heavily inspired by the Aes Sedai of WoT. Both go to a special tower to train. Both run the risk of being corrupted and going insane. Both have ways to remove the ability to use magic (gentled/stilled in Wot; tranquil in DA) to prevent said corruption, both have a religious order that keeps them in check, both have a caste based society from beyond the sea that "leashes" mages and treats them as property, etc...
There are plenty of other similarities between the two as well.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, name the fantasy series you're a fan of.
LotR, Earthsea, Gentlemen Bastard, GoT, the First Law, Broken Empire, Kingkiller Chronicles, Black Company, etc
Originally posted by NemeBro
Get Avellone's shriveled, unused cock out of your mouth.Avellone is the very definition of an edgemaster. He couldn't write a believable story with well-adjusted characters if his life depended on it, so he was to go with overly edgy and Joss Whedon-esque sarcastic stories, with an entire cast of dysfunctional characters (... And the Disciple). He does that one thing well, but it is the only thing he can do.
He wrote NV which you suck off at every opportunity.
Dysfunctional characters are interesting characters. Seriously, who wants to talk to a party member in a game who has no problems at all? They'd be like that boring **** Disciple. And his stories aren't sarcastic, he just deconstructs things a lot.
Originally posted by NemeBro
How could you hate Joss Whedon while also liking Obsidian's writing?I mean, I like both, but they're very similar, from what I've said.
Whedon's writing style from what I have seen comes off as very anvilicious, overly-snarky to the point of distracting, and sometimes campy.
I don't get that impression from Obsidian. It could be that I'm missing some grand piece of work from Whedon, but what I have seen parts of (Buffy, Angel, the Avengers) just reeks of snark-camp, and I can't take it seriously as media. It's just for superficial entertainment value and doesn't invoke any higher reasoning.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Post the one where he says that orcs are Mongolians.
[list]All orcs are often described as "slant-eyed" and the Uruk-Hai at least refer to the Rohhirim as 'white skins.' In one of his letters, Tolkien described Orcs as "...squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types."(Letter 210) [/list]
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
It could be that I'm missing some grand piece of work from Whedon, but what I have seen parts of (Buffy, Angel, the Avengers)
Watch Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Not that it doesn't come across the way you describe, I mean just watch it because of how awesome it is.
This is the best thing Nathat Fillion has ever done:
Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Watch Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Not that it doesn't come across the way you describe, I mean just watch it because of how awesome it is.
Not heard of it. I'll look it up.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Firefly is his magnum opus imo. estahuh
I have heard this from many people. And maybe it'll interest me. I'm just saying, from what I've seen so far, Whedon appears grossly overrated, and it's usually that "he's one of us" mentality driving the hype.
lol
No, Angel is his best work. Firefly could have surpassed it in time but couldn't in a mere dozen-odd episodes.
Anyway, Whedon's great because his works typically run a gamut of hilarious to heartbreaking. As opposed to say, Christopher Nolan, who is just overwhelmingly, oppressively LOL DARK & COMPLEX AND ADULT LAWL GRIM!
Whedon's got plenty of complexity and darkness, but has the wisdom and skill to inject his work with humor and levity as well.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
lolNo, Angel is his best work. Firefly could have surpassed it in time but couldn't in a mere dozen-odd episodes.
Anyway, Whedon's great because his works typically run a gamut of hilarious to heartbreaking. As opposed to say, Christopher Nolan, who is just overwhelmingly, oppressively LOL DARK & COMPLEX AND ADULT LAWL GRIM!
Whedon's got plenty of complexity and darkness, but has the wisdom and skill to inject his work with humor and levity as well.
Look, here comes one now.