Originally posted by TzeentchBut Vader was an insecure phuck boi...
Yeah, there's a difference between the villain not being what you wanted versus the villain being poorly written. Kylo Ren is an insecure phuck boi compared to Vader, but it's obvious that he isn't supposed to be Vader. And Rey beating his ass will likely just give him an even bigger chip on his shoulder, making him even stronger, and will likely blossom into a pretty cool rivalry between him and Rey over the course of the series.If you want the self-assured, brutally evil villain ala Vader than that's what Snoke and the other Imperials are for. It's what Phasma should have been... instead of what she was.
Probably the most disappointing element of the film. TRAITOR was a bigger badass than her.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66Minus the hate part I agree completely. Far darker than Vader was. First Order is also greater than the imperial army was as well.
@DK: lolwut? Kylo was an amazing antagonist and among the first in the franchise I actually hate (which is a good thing)... better than Vader ever was, IMO.