The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by FreshestSlice3,287 pages

Damn, Tempest. Didn't even know it was possible to type or talk with someone's dick that far down your throat. I mean I guess LeGenD can but he's more of the exception.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The farcical nature of the war helps make it even cooler. It's the biggest, baddest fight in history... and ultimately a sham. Now that's some Shakespearean tragedy there.

Sheev really is the greatest Star Wars villain.

If by cooler you mean that it has no real stakes then sure.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If by cooler you mean that it has no real stakes then sure.

The destruction of the Jedi, Republic, and the rise of galaxywide fascism indicate real stakes to me. Things actually changed and possibly forever.

Unlike, y'know, SWTOR. excellent

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Damn, Tempest. Didn't even know it was possible to type or talk with someone's dick that far down your throat. I mean I guess LeGenD can but he's more of the exception.

Now we both know that's not true. Not only do you interact regularly with my boy Neph, whose gag reflex has been MIA for sometime, but I also gather Valkoriate has been using your mouth as a jock strap when LeGenD's TMJ kicks in. 😖hifty:

We already know whats going to happen though and the soldiers fighting the war are, as pointed out, faceless and never ending such that we don't give a shit when they die.

Originally posted by Nephthys
We already know whats going to happen though and the soldiers fighting the war are, as pointed out, faceless and never ending such that we don't give a shit when they die.

Nah. The extensive multimedia coverage on the Clone Wars era for the past 15 years or so has imbued that conflict with infinitely greater pathos and poignancy than what surrounds SWTOR. The Order 66 arc in season 6 of the Clone Wars tells a far greater story regarding a lowly trooper than any I've seen from SWTOR. Like, not even close. 👆

Which I've always found ironic, given how desperately SWTOR seeks to make its rank and file evocative of the clone trooper.

If we are going to discuss souless, stakeless conflict. SWTOR wins first prize. Neither the Republic or Empire are ever going to beat each other, instead we get am endless parade of bigger, flashier and emptier proxies to distract the player from its monotony.

Originally posted by Nephthys
We already know whats going to happen though and the soldiers fighting the war are, as pointed out, faceless and never ending such that we don't give a shit when they die.
This statement can be applied to literally every war in the mythos that takes place up to Return of the Jedi.

The Republic and the Jedi rule the galaxy for thousands of years while the Sith live in obscurity, before Palpatine rises up and takes control- thus the conclusion of every Old Republic conflict is basically predetermined.

plz gibe adderull :> :> :>

Originally posted by Tzeentch
This statement can be applied to literally every war in the mythos that takes place up to Return of the Jedi.

The Republic and the Jedi rule the galaxy for thousands of years while the Sith live in obscurity, before Palpatine rises up and takes control- thus the conclusion of every Old Republic conflict is basically predetermined.


A bunch of droids and clones aren't really comparable to people who've made connections to everyone they've known that isn't a clone of themselves. or bred for war. It's not the fact that we on the outside know how the war will end, it's the fact that the people inside the galaxy know how the war will end and we know they know.

Originally posted by Jock Strap
A bunch of droids and clones aren't really comparable to people who've made connections to everyone they've known that isn't a clone of themselves. or bred for war. It's not the fact that we on the outside know how the war will end, it's the fact that the people inside the galaxy know how the war will end and we know they know.

Unless their name was Darth Sidious, no one inside the galaxy knew how the war would end.

Master Tempest. Is it true that you're also a fan of the Star Killer? :>

Originally posted by Syndicate
Master Tempest. Is it true that you're also a fan of the Star Killer? :>

wat

Count Dooku
Every corrupt admiral ever
Maul
Hell, probably Ventress.

Not to mention I was speaking in general. A conflict without conflict is boring. The best parts of the Clone Wars were the ones that ignored Palpatine and fleshed out the drones...I mean the clones.

did anyone else notice Temp quoted Freshest referring to him as "Jock Strap"?

You're supposed to ignore obvious bait, DMB.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Count Dooku

The Count Dooku from Stover's book who was 100% certain the war would end with him as co-ruler of an "Empire of Man" that would enslave all the non-human races outright and lead an army of Sith Lords, with Anakin Skywalker as his apprentice?

That Dooku? mmm

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Every corrupt admiral ever
Maul
Hell, probably Ventress.

Gonna need citations on all these.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not to mention I was speaking in general. A conflict without conflict is boring. The best parts of the Clone Wars were the ones that ignored Palpatine and fleshed out the drones...I mean the clones.

Nah, the conflict was there. The fact that it was orchestrated by one man simply deepens the tragedy. The clones were depicted brilliantly, no doubt, but TCW did just fine on all things Sheev, too.

Emperordmb
did anyone else notice Temp quoted Freshest referring to him as "Jock Strap"?

Whoops... damn autocorrect.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The Count Dooku from Stover's book who was 100% certain the war would end with him as co-ruler of an "Empire of Man" that would enslave all the non-human races outright and lead an army of Sith Lords, with Anakin Skywalker as his apprentice?

That Dooku? mmm


Semantics. You know what I meant.

Gonna need citations on all these.

Nah, I'm already putting way too much effort into this.

Nah, the conflict was there. The fact that it was orchestrated by one man simply deepens the tragedy. The clones were depicted brilliantly, no doubt, but TCW did just fine on all things Sheev, too.

One man? It was a thousand years of planning. It's not that tragic, especially when it all crumbles in twenty years. And Palpatine was boring as **** in TCW.

Whoops... damn autocorrect.

Yeah, right. uhuh

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Semantics. You know what I meant.

No I don't lol. Looks like Dooku's notion of the war's end and the actual thing were worlds apart.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah, I'm already putting way too much effort into this.

gewd

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
One man? It was a thousand years of planning.

Nah, it was a thousand years of hiding, waiting for someone with the balls and brains to make shit happen.

Here he be.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It's not that tragic, especially when it all crumbles in twenty years.

That's twenty years more than anyone else ever had. 👆

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And Palpatine was boring as **** in TCW.

Nah. The character pretty much always meets with acclaim from critics and the public alike, unlike Valkorion, whom no one ever cares about. excellent

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yeah, right. uhuh

Ain't my fault that autocorrect has you pegged. stoned

Originally posted by The_Tempest
wat

Emp told me you liked Galen. :<

When the **** did I say that?