The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah. The extensive multimedia coverage on the Clone Wars era for the past 15 years or so has imbued that conflict with infinitely greater pathos and poignancy than what surrounds SWTOR. The Order 66 arc in season 6 of the Clone Wars tells a far greater story regarding a lowly trooper than any I've seen from SWTOR. Like, not even close. 👆

Which I've always found ironic, given how desperately SWTOR seeks to make its rank and file evocative of the clone trooper.

You've never played Swtor, so that's hardly a damning statement. 😬 Having a lot of stories doesn't amount to much when they're largely pointless. The CW era is just so bogged down with minutia and hundreds of boring, pointless characters who are just going to die pointlessly that it's frankly a slog to try to engage with. Its overexposed to the point of parody.

Aesthetics are irrelevant to what they actually are.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
If we are going to discuss souless, stakeless conflict. SWTOR wins first prize. Neither the Republic or Empire are ever going to beat each other, instead we get am endless parade of bigger, flashier and emptier proxies to distract the player from its monotony.

Incorrect, we don't have a clue whats going to happen in Swtor which gives it at least basic stakes. Base game the Republic got the upper hand and we had no clue where the class stories would go, then we got to watch the Empire pulling themselves back up, then a bunch of crazy shit no one could have predicted happened etc. I'm excited for further KotFE chapters because I don't know whats going to happen and I'm looking forward to finding out. In the CW we know exactly how it's going to end from the beginning, we're just watching the pantomime play out with almost literal puppets on the stage.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
When the **** did I say that?

On Google Hangouts.

Originally posted by Syndicate
On Google Hangouts.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You've never played Swtor, so that's hardly a damning statement. 😬 Having a lot of stories doesn't amount to much when they're largely pointless. The CW era is just so bogged down with minutia and hundreds of boring, pointless characters who are just going to die pointlessly that it's frankly a slog to try to engage with. Its overexposed to the point of parody.

Nah. The Clone Wars are actually a gamechanger across the board, with real stakes, real characters, and compelling stories. As Blax points out, SWTOR is pointless because the status quo resumes and no one cares about Barsen'thor or Valkorion or Malgus. It's just yet another shallow storyline with characters no one cares about because a group of 10 year olds think that more glowsticks = better storytelling. It's an unoriginal narrative that draws from other stories told better: TCW and KOTOR.

What a waste, y'know?

Spoiler:
Which, now that I think about it, does explain your interest in things like Karpyshyn and Bane and Valkorion...

Originally posted by Emperordmb
he wanked Ventress

Maybe it was somebody else then.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Incorrect, we don't have a clue whats going to happen in Swtor which gives it at least basic stakes. Base game the Republic got the upper hand and we had no clue where the class stories would go, then we got to watch the Empire pulling themselves back up, then a bunch of crazy shit no one could have predicted happened etc. I'm excited for further KotFE chapters because I don't know whats going to happen and I'm looking forward to finding out.

Thrilling.

And the class stories didn't go anywhere. They were discontinued.

SWTOR has some interesting and engaging personal story arcs, but as far as the war is concerned, its a backdrop, and all the interesting aspects involve proxies. And frankly I found it very restricted by game mechanics, I felt like they weren't really able to change anything other than overscreen, so not to disrupt the game.

And now its obsolete. KotFE presents some interesting opportunities, but not because of the war, that again all happened off-screen and continues to happen off-screen.

In the CW we know exactly how it's going to end from the beginning, we're just watching the pantomime play out with almost literal puppets on the stage.

These Geonosian elites are so goddamn annoying.

Shoot them, Good-Tempest.

I TOLD YOU TEMP.

Also, take me as your apprentice.

Not maul-syndicate or dooku-s66

Make me Vader >:3

And yet Temp never gives SWTOR a chance. 🙂

Republic Commando > SWTOR.

Nah. 🙂

When SWTOR makes me care about a character as much as I cared about any member of Delta Squad, then I might reconsider. SWTOR has utterly failed to make me like or dislike any character on any level approaching what RC did for me.

And that's pretty much what a good writer is supposed to do so the audience gets invested.

I'm invested in seeing what the lead director's 8 year old will think of next.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
I'm invested in seeing what the lead director's 8 year old will think of next.

Lemme give you a hint, boo bear.

Spoiler:
Something disappointing.

Originally posted by Aurbere
Lemme give you a hint, boo bear.

Spoiler:
Something disappointing.

So the kid's working in the Bane trilogy and The Revan novel?

Shieeeet

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
So the kid's working in the Bane trilogy and The Revan novel?

Shieeeet

I can't help but feel like including those wouldn't really hurt SWTOR's story at this point. It would at least rival some of the terrible fan fiction I've come across.

Valkorion one shots Delta Squad. 🙂

That doesn't really make me care any more about Valkorion, Skillz. So Deltas >

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Boss solos