The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Beniboybling3,287 pages

Oh lordy, so now I'm expressing white guilt for not caring about a decision to cast a black actor for your dumb book? Did you even bother to confirm first whether or not I was white? 😂

What depresses me nowadays is how many people are so easily coopted into narratives of bullshit hysteria, and begin spouting nonsense like this as if their on hallucinogenics.

Like I said pal the waabulance is on its way, so go lie down and take some puffs from your inhaler. 🙁

Lmao. You're 100% white. There's no question about that.

Guess there won't be any more "intelligent" discourse between us. Not that your attempts to justify your liberal agenda could be classed as "intelligent" either.

I'm actually mixed race. So that would be 50%. 😱

And I didn't come here for a discourse mate, came here to laugh at you. 🙁

And since you requested it, here's another belly ticker:

Originally posted by Kurk
This and the plot ruined it for me. It's not like the two main characters (a girl and african american) were casually introduced with some logic behind it, instead they awkwardly shoved down our throats with no logical reasoning whatsoever. Rey somehow defeats Ren with no experience wielding a lightsaber before that point or formally training in the force. Phasma is the female commander of the elite storm troopers, the main antagonist is white. There are plenty of articles on it.

I really hope they don't do this against with Rogue One or Episode VIII but I already know they will.

No one wants politics integrated into Star Wars or any movie for that matter.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Don't like. Don't WANT. 🙁
What a farcical pair you two make. 👆

Syndicate, learn the difference between Neo-progressive and liberal. The left-wing ideology behind political correctness and intersectional social justice is decidedly illiberal.

Liberal is not synonymous with left-wing.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It's not about skin color or sexual tendencies. It's about being accurate to the details of the original work.

Which you can be even if you change race or sexual tendency. I mean, just look at the Ancient One in Doctor Strange. In the original work he's an old Asian man, here he's... some bald white chick.

But that didn't bother me because she carried out the character extremely well. Unless race or sexuality are an integral part of the character, then you can change them and still get the same effect if the actor is good enough.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm actually mixed race. So that would be 50%. 😱

And I didn't come here for a discourse mate, came here to laugh at you. 🙁

And since you requested it, here's another belly ticker: What a farcical pair you two make. 👆

And that doesn't make you any less stupid. 🙂 That's all you not whatever minority DNA you have in you.

Lmao. It was Kurk. I knew he was trolling especially with the line

"Phasma is the female commander of the elite storm troopers, the main antagonist is white. There are plenty of articles on it."

Not surprised you can't tell the difference between a joke and racism though. That's pretty much most liberals your age.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Syndicate, learn the difference between Neo-progressive and liberal. The left-wing ideology behind political correctness and intersectional social justice is decidedly illiberal.

Liberal is not synonymous with left-wing.

DMB. I really don't care about politics enough to ever devote time to studying why Beni is such a cuck.

Also, I for one enjoy seeing diversity lately. If they show off more homosexuals, transgenders/transexuals, women or people of colour in a series or movie I'm 100% cool with it. It's not pushing an agenda with identity politics, it's setting up diversity and showing people are different. The human race is a complex layer-upon-layer like system of different beliefs, values and characteristics(both psychological and physical).

So I don't think having a girl and a black man as leads in any way hinders the film or shows off some left-wing agenda. Instead it offers actual diversity, which films have lacked a lot of before the 2000s. Remember when the idea of "diversity" was having one token chick and one token black guy in a cast with 10 other white people? Yeah... that sure as hell wasn't any agenda pushing...

Originally posted by MythLord
Which you can be even if you change race or sexual tendency. I mean, just look at the Ancient One in Doctor Strange. In the original work he's an old Asian man, here he's... some bald white chick.

But that didn't bother me because she carried out the character extremely well. Unless race or sexuality are an integral part of the character, then you can change them and still get the same effect if the actor is good enough.

No, you can't.

Yeah, I imagine people who were fans of the original character were pissed.

I disagree.

Myth getting every note right, Syn just spouting more dumb. 🙁

Originally posted by MythLord
Also, I for one enjoy seeing diversity lately. If they show off more homosexuals, transgenders/transexuals, women or people of colour in a series or movie I'm 100% cool with it. It's not pushing an agenda with identity politics, it's setting up diversity and showing people are different. The human race is a complex layer-upon-layer like system of different beliefs, values and characteristics(both psychological and physical).

So I don't think having a girl and a black man as leads in any way hinders the film or shows off some left-wing agenda. Instead it offers actual diversity, which films have lacked a lot of before the 2000s. Remember when the idea of "diversity" was having one token chick and one token black guy in a cast with 10 other white people? Yeah... that sure as hell wasn't any agenda pushing...

Me too. More diversity gives more options and things to see which is desperately needed in the Hollywood landscape where fewer and fewer risks are being taken.

What's not? Having minority actors play white characters? It completely is because there's no need for it and it alters the details of a work that fans love because of those details.

The human race is very different. The character's depicted the way they are in their original work are set in stone. That's the difference.

Neither do I. That's one of the reasons I was disappointed they didn't have Susannah, a black cripple character, in the movie.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No, you can't.

Yeah, you can.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Yeah, I imagine people who were fans of the original character were pissed.

Skillz and I were fans of the original and we didn't mind. Many of the reigning Doctor Strange experts and fans I talk to both IRL and on ComicVine didn't really think it was that big a deal and they liked the character. Because the core part of the character was there. What's important was there.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I disagree.

Then that's really just your own personal issue you have to work out. If such irrelevant things like race and sexuality get to you, then the fault isn't in a movie showing diversity, but you who can't accept it.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Me too. More diversity gives more options and things to see which is desperately needed in the Hollywood landscape where fewer and fewer risks are being taken.

What's not? Having minority actors play white characters? It completely is because there's no need for it and it alters the details of a work that fans love because of those details.

The human race is very different. The character's depicted the way they are in their original work are set in stone. That's the difference.

Neither do I. That's one of the reasons I was disappointed they didn't have Susannah, a black cripple character, in the movie.

So you agree with me diversity is important. Good. So why does an adaption -- which are known to change things around -- trigger you when a character's race, sexuality or gender is different if that's an irrelevant part of the character?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
And that doesn't make you any less stupid. 🙂 That's all you not whatever minority DNA you have in you.

Lmao. It was Kurk. I knew he was trolling especially with the line

"Phasma is the female commander of the elite storm troopers, the main antagonist is white. There are plenty of articles on it."

Not surprised you can't tell the difference between a joke and racism though. That's pretty much most liberals your age.

Articles he proceeded to post. 😆

Sure, I believe u. 🙁

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Myth getting every note right, Syn just spouting more dumb. 🙁

It's alright. Literalist Christians can't defend their brainwashed beliefs either. It's a long but slow process, but they tend to realize their mistakes eventually. I have faith in you Beni. You're a moderately intelligent individual.

Set me up with your dealer and I'm sure I'll be fine. 🙁

Originally posted by MythLord
Yeah, you can.

Skillz and I were fans of the original and we didn't mind. Many of the reigning Doctor Strange experts and fans I talk to both IRL and on ComicVine didn't really think it was that big a deal and they liked the character. Because the core part of the character was there. What's important was there.

Then that's really just your own personal issue you have to work out. If such irrelevant things like race and sexuality get to you, then the fault isn't in a movie showing diversity, but you who can't accept it.

So you agree with me diversity is important. Good. So why does an adaption -- which are known to change things around -- trigger you when a character's race, sexuality or gender is different if that's an irrelevant part of the character?

No, you can't.

Good for them. Doesn't change the fact that important details of a character being altered will often upset longtime fans like the Joker being portrayed as a tatooed gangster when in the comics he finds people like that to be laughable.

I don't have to work out anything Wolf. I have no issue with either race or sexuality. I take issue with people adapting stories not doing all in their power to be accurate to the original source material. If I disliked either diversity in race or sexuality I never would have bothered reading the Dark Tower let alone have it be my favorite series.

Because adaptions are supposed to be accurate to the original source material. Sometimes they're not whether that be due to limitations of budget or technology and this I can accept. When they actively seek to alter details for no apparent reason other then "diversity" I'm going to be mad.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Articles he proceeded to post. 😆

Sure, I believe u. 🙁

Kurk is a troll. If you take anything he says seriously you're stupider then I thought.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Set me up with your dealer and I'm sure I'll be fine. 🙁

Don't make me report you to the police for drug use Beni. 🙁 I know how you think they treat minorities.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Kurk is a troll. If you take anything he says seriously you're stupider then I thought.
that bad huh? you must be very embarrassed then. 🙁

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Don't make me report you to the police for drug use Beni. 🙁 I know how you think they treat minorities.
Offer them millions of dollars to trigger poor fanbois? don't sound so bad. 🙁