The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Originally posted by Dominis
I liked it, yeah. I'm not going to lie, Palpatine is a big reason why I enjoyed the film.

Don't get me wrong, I have my complaints with the movie and the trilogy as a whole, but I think most of the fanbase nitpick and make up issues that aren't even there.

Well if you liked it you liked it. I cant force you not to, just like you cant force me not to like the prequels.

And yeah was good to get definitive confirmation of Palpatine being the most powerful Sith ever, and clearly well above any Prequel Jedi. So I can see the appeal there for Sidious fans.

But I personally think in terms of a great villain Prequel and ROTJ Palpatine >>>> TROS Palpatine. I personally dont think JJ gets the character (where it seems like he does its because hes just imitating ROTJ), and shoehorning him into this trilogy last minute probably didnt help either.

Welcome back, S66. Zamp, Lucius, The Canadian, and now yourself?

'Tis a most joyful reunion.

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Class of '05 represent. My joints hurt.

It's funny to see the different waves of SW vs forum members. The Final Generation (myself at least in this form, Ant, Azronger, Skillz, etc.) has migrated away from KMC to another forum and I wonder if that's the end.

No one cares where you guys went. All you folks did is troll anyway, and make this forum an absolute cesspool. 👇

Originally posted by Sheev
No one cares where you guys went. All you folks did is troll anyway, and make this forum an absolute cesspool. 👇

😆 I mean, that generation was definitely the peak of SW vs. debating in terms of sophistication and depth, with long and sustained blogs and debates like this and this. There was also more trolling than usual, sometimes to terrible levels, but to say that's "all" that was done is clearly wrong.

(esp to direct it at me since after 2016 I hardly trolled at all)

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Anyway, I was just posting to check in on everyone and reminiscence about my time here. It wasn't all positive, but it was definitely a huge part of my life...probably more huge than it should have been. I made a lot of friends from here too though, so I can't say I would take that back.

Hope everyone is doing well. 👆

I'm not saying that some of you didn't know your shit. I'm just saying that towards the end, most of you JUST trolled or shitposted in pretty much every thread that popped up.

It was borderline impossible to have a decent Star Wars related discussion here. That's what got annoying.... I can only hope the same crap isn't going on in the forum you guys migrated to.

Originally posted by Sheev
I'm not saying that some of you didn't know your shit. I'm just saying that towards the end, most of you JUST trolled or shitposted in pretty much every thread that popped up.

It was borderline impossible to have a decent Star Wars related discussion here. That's what got annoying.... I can only hope the same crap isn't going on in the forum you guys migrated to.

That did become a problem here, yeah, partly because of a few actors and partly because people got bored. We've at least temporarily fixed that problem with more mods and greater community engagement (discouraging boredom trolling).

I'm not saying towards the end that it was a bad thing we left lol (don't think I personally really trolled after 2016 though)

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's funny to see the different waves of SW vs forum members. The Final Generation (myself at least in this form, Ant, Azronger, Skillz, etc.) has migrated away from KMC to another forum and I wonder if that's the end.

What you got ain't nothin new.

You pre-2012 guys had a Neo Nazi sock invasion too?

Proxy wars on proxy wars

RIP Star Wars Forums, The Sith Outcasts, Mega Star Wars Forums, Coalition of Darkness, etc. you will be missed.

Originally posted by Jaggarath
You pre-2012 guys had a Neo Nazi sock invasion too?

huh. I was wondering where everybody went.

let's see if this forum ever gets back to its glory days with just us around.

Probably won't. For one thing, the new Star Wars content isn't really compatible with debating (not enough new force user characters). For another, old KMC didn't have to compete with social networking sites. Discord has pretty much guaranteed that websites like this are obsolete.

I recently watched Legend of Galactic Heroes, a space opera anime from the 80s heavily inspired by Star Wars. There is a battle in that anime where the combined forces of both sides number over 200,000 ships and like thirty million personnel. That's in a single battle. In this setting, a fleet of 25,000 ships is seen as small.

It's nice to see a proper sense of scale for a war on a galactic scale.

Yeah, Star Wars has always felt small. The scale of distances, personnel, planets, even time... always seemed teensy. 3 million clones for the whole dang galactic war! The Red Army flipin wishes it could match those kinds of astronomical numbers.

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Speaking strictly the movies then millions of clones makes more sense. In AOTC over 10,000 systems joined the CIS and that many "split" the Republic in half. Hannity has a statement in ANH that implies less than 1000 ships for the Empire, and none of the battles we see in the films ever have even 100 capital ships around. If you read the scripts then armies of clones and droids are in the "thousands" range never beyond that. The death stars and Starkiller base do put a huge dent in that interpretation, however.