The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

I'm now grinning like a fool because I'm imagining floating around the room, weightless. A gentle push off the floor sends me forward and up at an angle, but I accidentally gave myself some spin; I'm slowly rotating heels-over-head -- and I tuck my head in and collide with the ceiling with my shoulders. This cancels out most of my momentum, leaving me slowly drifting away from the ceiling without anything to hold onto. I slowly move my arms down to about my waist and push off against the ceiling; this time, since I was pushing around my centroid, I go slowly toward the floor. Which also doesn't have anything to hold onto. Damn, this room was not designed for weightlessness. Here endeth the delightful fantasy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/37118617#37118617

It'd be pretty amazing to see the U.S. get a working 3rd political party.

I'd prefer a centrist party. I side with Republicans on security, but I tend to go with Democrats on social issues.

Yeah, it's nice to know that we have a safety valve to siphon extremist votes away from the Republican party. Maybe there will be an actual conversation next decade (the 2020s) after this newest version of "populism" dies out. (Is funny because the original populist movement sided with socialists, but now is rabidly anti-socialist. Is more funny because there is a large voting bloc that wouldn't vote for Palin any more than Palin would vote for Hillary, thus ensuring that the tea party stays inside its straightjacket.)

Originally posted by Autokrat
I'd prefer a centrist party. I side with Republicans on security, but I tend to go with Democrats on social issues.

I'd take Peter Schiff or Ron Paul over the current candidates, but I hate Paul's policies on foreign security. They are weak at best, pathetic at worst.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Yeah, it's nice to know that we have a safety valve to siphon extremist votes away from the Republican party. Maybe there will be an actual conversation next decade (the 2020s) after this newest version of "populism" dies out. (Is funny because the original populist movement sided with socialists, but now is rabidly anti-socialist. Is more funny because there is a large voting bloc that wouldn't vote for Palin any more than Palin would vote for Hillary, thus ensuring that the tea party stays inside its straightjacket.)

Is this one of those "the teabaggers are racist and psychotic" rants?

http://cbs2.com/local/Los.Angeles.City.2.1689109.html

GOtta love LA and the whole state of California. Emotion>>>>>>Logic

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64B53W20100512

Also, LOL@Obama Administration and Bernanke for sucking so hard, they're making people wonder if Bush was really that bad.

i love living here. la has such great weather.

people are losing their minds here though

I didn't like Bush. Palin sucks. But Nancy Pelosi is evil. And ugly. I mean. UGLY.

Tea Party's stated goals: Lower taxes, less government intervention in our everyday lives. If Ron Paul ran as a Tea Party Candidate.... we might be talking the creation of a third party. I don't know of anything else that would work.

Oh, and did you see everyone so happy that unemployment actually went up again this month? People who haven't been looking for jobs actually started looking is what happened.

Originally posted by truejedi
Oh, and did you see everyone so happy that unemployment actually went up again this month? People who haven't been looking for jobs actually started looking is what happened.

They manipulate stats monthly, real unemployment is close to 20%. I think the European Markets are going to crash REAL soon, and we'll slowly follow suit.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Is this one of those "the teabaggers are racist and psychotic" rants?

Stop putting words in my mouth.

I was pointing out how, historically, third parties have bled votes out of one of the two major parties so that their opponent can win. Look at the Green Party hurting Gore. Look at the Election of 1860 having no national party candidate. Multiple parties doesn't work if the third party is just splitting off some previously encamped voters. Think about it: where will the Tea Party get its votes? Sure as hell wont be the Democrats. (We dont do crazy. Just creepy.) Now that the Republican voter base is being divvied up there is less of a chance that ANY given Republican will be elected.

Also it is funny because the crazies are going so far right they can't be in the Republican party anymore. Evaporative cooling might bring them back closer to the center so that we can make some actual progress, instead of having a minority of 59 in the Senate.

Once again, why are you calling the Tea Party the crazies? Their stated goals are right in line with the Libertarians. Less Federal Spending==Lower taxes.

Originally posted by truejedi
Once again, why are you calling the Tea Party the crazies? Their stated goals are right in line with the Libertarians. Less Federal Spending==Lower taxes.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Go ahead and find the word "racist" there. I dare you to find a hint of it.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Also it is funny because the crazies are going so far right they can't be in the Republican party anymore. Evaporative cooling might bring them back closer to the center so that we can make some actual progress, instead of having a minority of 59 in the Senate.

You have crazies that are so far left, what is your point?

So you are saying there stated goals are....?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
They get the name crazies because they are the most extreme members of the right. The party includes everything from Birthers to anarcho-fascists (see Doonsbury). They are the newest incarnation of the FAR right.

Yea I REALLY don't think you've been paying attention these past few months.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
They get the name crazies because they are the most extreme members of the right. The party includes everything from Birthers to anarcho-fascists (see Doonsbury). They are the newest incarnation of the FAR right.

The technical, sociological term, is Reactionary.

Originally posted by Autokrat
The technical, sociological term, is Reactionary.

I'm not sure you can get any crazier than Pelosi, Obama, or Bernanke. You know what they attributed the rise of unemployment to a few months ago? SNOW STORMS. You know what they attributed the tanking markets last week to? SOMEONE PUSHED THE WRONG BUTTON WHILE BUYING.