The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Originally posted by Lucius
Relativism is the default position and it is not sustainable. Religious individuals apply a religious framework to right and wrong via divine command theory. Some atheists like me apply the framework of human happiness and wellbeing.

Go around shouting that everything is relative makes you look like a dumbass that doesn't know jack shit past basic Philo 101.

Now you can understand my dislike for liberals and philosophy majors. This happened to me when I foolishly decided to take 1 philosophy class, then even more foolishly decided to take another one. In the religious framework, there ARE universal rights and wrongs(10 commandments, some of the 613 Jewish commandments), but that's why there's the Gemarah/Talmud/Hallahah/Chumash. There are MANY cases that are within certain contexts and those contexts define the verdict. But relativism exists, just as universal rights and wrongs exist.

truejedi Senior Member

DE, noticed you didn't try to justify their actions. Because you are so wrong its pitiful.

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Lucius
Relativism is the default position and it is not sustainable. Religious individuals apply a religious framework to right and wrong via divine command theory. Some atheists like me apply the framework of human happiness and wellbeing.

Go around shouting that everything is relative makes you look like a dumbass that doesn't know jack shit past basic Philo 101.

Well, that or you go full Determinism.

Lucius Unknown
Originally posted by Zampanó
Well, that or you go full Determinism.

No one can actually live as if life was fully deterministic. Just like Hume pointed out that no one can live as a true skeptic.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by truejedi
DE, noticed you didn't try to justify their actions. Because you are so wrong its pitiful.

Actually, its becuase any justification would be hollow and baseless.

edit: Yeah, how exactly would you live as a determinist anyway?

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by truejedi
DE, noticed you didn't try to justify their actions. Because you are so wrong its pitiful.

Hey, their goals aren't great but their methods sure are. By terrorizing medical practitioners they advance their ultimate goal of returning the nation (and ultimately the world) to the 7th century poverty of their religion's birth. Christians wanted that too, until the Enlightenment beat it out of them. The trick is to get the Muslims that got collateral Enlightenment beatstick damage to spread that awareness to the fundamentalist whackjobs, or at least reclaim the mainstream.

(Islam's problem is that the mainstream is fully militarized. Christians and everyone else will be happier once it switches over to being a "weekend religion" like the other Abrahamic faiths have.)

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Lucius
No one can actually live as if life was fully deterministic. Just like Hume pointed out that no one can live as a true skeptic.

But you can live life as an optimist. Haven't you read Candide? We have two legs so that we can fit into pants!

Lucius Unknown
Originally posted by Zampanó
But you can live life as an optimist. Haven't you read Candide? We have two legs so that we can fit into pants!

Because this is the best of all possible worlds.

Man, I love how Voltaire took the piss out of Leibniz.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

But you can live life as an optimist. Haven't you read Candide? We have two legs so that we can fit into pants!

Or as a Determinist: 'Life was started, it evolved and grew until one person was born solely for the purpose to make these pants that I'm about to put on.'

Damn, thats so deep I just threw up.

Dr McBeefington Restricted

All this talk about determinism and Voltaire and all of those enlightenment genius is giving me an erection.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Sherlock is awesome. House and Dexter levels of awesome. I highly recommend it to you fahgs.

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Definitely... If I was 12... And single.

Zampanó The Blind Critic
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Yeah, I'm sure bullets will help vigilant citizens mitigate the invasive plant species that are threatening our national parks. Eat lead, Russian Olives!!!
Zampanó The Blind Critic

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Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Definitely... If I was 12... And single.

There is definitely something wrong with you.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

http://www.cracked.com/blog/choose-your-own-drug-fueled-misadventure-flight-of-terror/

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Sherlock is awesome. House and Dexter levels of awesome. I highly recommend it to you fahgs.

You sure it's me there's something wrong with?

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Not enjoying intelligent, witty programming can only occur if you're a sociopath or a penguin. And since I'm not perversly attrACTED TO YOU....

Zampanó The Blind Critic

Damn it nep, never link to Cracked. It eats time. You could have unraveled the universe's space-time continuum.

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Indeed, Cracked is a massive time-suck. I love it so.