Originally posted by Borbarad
Any refutation of the arguments present follows a pattern of reasoning introduced to this very forum by "my friends" (as they are called here) and myself. Other people are also smart enough to use it? That's brilliant. Which doesn't mean that I copied them. As a matter of fact, I can't even remember to have dealt with that quote in question in a debate. I was mainly refering to the quote from the NEC, which was paraded around as "absolute proof" here for months.And its quite obvious that Gideon, despite typing that refutation down, has still not understood it. Otherwise he wouldn't have attempted to use a similar quote from a different source as "absolute proof" after doing so. After correcting the same mistake twice (or rather than that: adopting the corrections of his mistake by other people), one should have expected that he wouldn't commit it once again. Which he did.
Now one could ask if Gideon was incapable of understanding what he typed down himself, or flat out acted against his own knowledge, just to convince people of his opinion. Was Gideon an idiot or a liar? In all honesty: I think he was merely lured in by the delusion of having a point that couldn't be attacked, just to score agains the older, more educated and intellectual superior members of this board. Either that, or he was a fundamentalist. Who cares?
^ That's not very nice to insult myGideon's intelligence. Certain young geniuses here happen to believe he was pretty smart, for what it's worth:
Zampano
Nai, I'm not sure that you're being entirely fair. With respect to your own intellectual abilities, Gideon was probably the single most rhetorically talented poster on KMC during the last four years. On top of that, he has access to nearly every released piece of Star Wars continuity through either his own (apparently expansive) collection or by proxy through LS and Faunus.Everything I know about him supports the idea that he is both knowledgeable enough and capable enough a thinker that Aumann's agreement theorem dictates that we can use his belief as positive evidence for a claim. The fact that as gifted a thinker as he has adopted a position is evidence that the position is a good one. Essentially, I would argue that Gideon is a strong enough rationalist that his belief is evidence in and of itself.
But I have sent you a PM with the means in which weyou and Gideon may discuss this further. 😄