Originally posted by truejedi
Haiku is simply.
Lazy Asian poetry.
Not even trying.
Originally posted by truejedi
Asians wrote Haiku,
Because they don't understand,
how to make words rhyme.
Spoiler:
this is not a good one
Originally posted by truejedi
Maybe it happened,
Because their words are pictures,
Phonics is harder.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Not true at all, especially considering that all of his accolades have been discussed to death, yet you made a point to rewrite them in an essay.
You forgot the outright forging of proof and ingenious stuff like this:
Originally posted by Gideon
There is no known depiction of Palpatine’s martial skills, aside from his Force-enhanced speed, reflexes, and acrobatics. However, as the sole instructor of his three Sith apprentices, we can conclude with reasonable logic that he possessed many of the physical skills that they have demonstrated.
It's clearly objective to label Sidious the "sole instructor" of Anakin and Dooku. It's likewise "reasonable logic" to conclude that he must possess their physical skills because of that. 🙄
So next time somebody tells you, that Yoda lacks reach and physical strength, you can - with "reasonable logic" - tell them, that because he trained Dooku, he must be roughly 2 metres tall and in the physical condition of a 40 year old human.
Sidious fanboyism? Clearly not present. 👆
Originally posted by Borbarad
You forgot the outright forging of proof and ingenious stuff like this:It's clearly objective to label Sidious the "sole instructor" of Anakin and Dooku. It's likewise "reasonable logic" to conclude that he must possess their physical skills because of that. 🙄
So next time somebody tells you, that Yoda lacks reach and physical strength, you can - with "reasonable logic" - tell them, that because he trained Dooku, he must be roughly 2 metres tall and in the physical condition of a 40 year old human.
Sidious fanboyism? Clearly not present. 👆
Just for the record, I think one of the 3 there is Mara... So that would just leave Dooku, OR anakin, not both.
Originally posted by truejedi
thanks. nebody got a link where I can find those with anything akin to ease? i'm having a terrible time finding consecutive episodes. so far a good series though. I love the post-apocalyptic thing.
http://tehcake.com/video/Battlestargalactica/welcome.html
They have the entire series. Enjoy, BSG is a fantastic show.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Blade Runner sucks.
Apparantly the novel is better.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Annie Wilkes, Hannibal Lector, Freddy Krueger, Frank from Blue velvet, Anton Chigurh, The Exorcist demons, Tetsuo, Gendo Ikari ...... gah, can't think of anyone else. >_>
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Because one thumbs up does not accurately reflect the extent to which I endorse that belief.
Also, I would argue that Ledger's Joker isn't even close to being Nolan's best villian. Cobb from Following, and in their own ways, Leonard from Memento, and Borden from the Prestige, are all far superior villains.
Originally posted by Igon Flombaigne
👆 👆 👆Because one thumbs up does not accurately reflect the extent to which I endorse that belief.
Thanks.
Originally posted by Igon Flombaigne
Also, I would argue that Ledger's Joker isn't even close to being Nolan's best villian. Cobb from Following, and in their own ways, Leonard from Memento, and Borden from the Prestige, are all far superior villains.
*****, please.
Borden was good as a villian, but hardly great. His entire character was 'you killed my wife, now we nemesises.' Leonard was likewise merely good imo. Never seen Following. Any good?
Joker blows these suckers out of the water with fantastical ease.
Epic fail right there. 😂
Borden was Christian Bale's character, not Hugh Jackman's.
Most people probably wouldn't catagorise them as villains but from a certain perspective I think they can both be said to make great ones.
Do not read this if you have not watched The Prestige, massive spoilers that will ruin the entire film for you will follow:
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The Prestige introduces us to this notion of truly living the magic trick: the true artistry of the magician. We see this manifest in a magician who lives the false life of a cripple to misdirect people’s attention from the very physically demanding methods of his trick, and we see this manifest in Borden, and his Transporting Man, where he seemingly traverses a distance viewed physically impossible for any human, with all doubts of there being a double cast aside. The truth of the matter was, that behind the scenes, the individual known as “Borden” was in fact a set of twins, sharing the same life and fooling the world (including those closest to them, such as their wife and child) into thinking that they were both one and the same person. Aside from raising frightening questions of their humanity, their obsession and seemingly inconsistent, contradictory nature create a depression in their wife and mother of their child that drives her to the point of suicide.
Do not read this if you have not watched Memento, massive spoilers that will ruin the entire film for you will follow:
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Leanord is introduced to us as man who suffers from Anterograde amnesia (i.e. he can no longer store new memories into his long term memory, and his memory essentially “resets” to the moment of the incident that resulted in his condition periodically after an unspecified amount of time) who uses notes, photographs, and tattoos on his body to hunt down the man who raped and murdered his wife, and put him into his condition. Long story short, it’s revealed that he tracked down and killed the man years ago, and that his wife isn’t even dead, and he was essentially on a meaningless quest for revenge. However, he comes to the realisation that he has come to live for the pursuit, that it’s what defines him, and that without it he has nothing to live for. So, for his own selfish desires, he distorts his notes and essentially tricks himself into believing that the man who had been helping him, an innocent man, was the man behind his wife’s death, whereby he would go on to pursue him and eventually kill him, purely so he could carry on living in pursuit of the man who ruined his life.
Both characters present unique and compelling motivations to the audience that are founded upon deep principles and are incredibly complex in their execution, and match the theme of the film perfectly.
Following was pretty incredible, especially considering the fact that it was basically a student film, made on absolutely no budget, that Christopher Nolan, working only on the weekends, did pretty much everything for, with the cast made up of his friends and relatives. It was Christoper Nolan's first film, and along with The Prestige and Memento, his best in my opinion. A very original, intricate, and compelling film. It's a true testament to how far raw talent and imagination can take you.
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The Prestige introduces us to this notion of truly living the magic trick: the true artistry of the magician.
Oh gee, what a profound message. What a delicious critique on the human condition. My mind? Blown.
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Aside from raising frightening questions of their humanity, their obsession and seemingly inconsistent, contradictory nature create a depression in their wife and mother of their child that drives her to the point of suicide.
Again, none of this makes him a villian. Hugh Jackman was teh villian, not Borden.
Both characters present unique and compelling motivations to the audience that are founded upon deep principles and are incredibly complex in their execution, and match the theme of the film perfectly.
Neither of which come close to teh Joker, setting aside teh fact that neither of them are villians at all!
I will not have you trivialise the artitry of the trickster and wandering magician Nephthys; do it again and consider yourself on the receiving end of my indignation.
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It depends how you look at it. He embodies a principle that could be considered inhumane. For his own selfish desires and obsessive nature, he essentially drove his wife to depression and madness; a process which he witnessed taking root; it's even hinted at that his wife had just found out about the two of them and that it was that revelation which lead to her suicide (there's even a theory that Borden - the twin that wasn't actually in love with her - killed her and faked her suicide to protect their secret).
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In that Leanord's choices knowingly and willfully brought about the death of an innocent man, it wouldn't exactly be a stretch to consider him a villain
They are both far more original than the Joker, with more complex machinations and deeper principles, that fit the themes of their superior films more accurately.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh gee, what a profound message. What a delicious critique on the human condition. My mind? Blown.
Not to you perhaps, but for people of that time and of that place who were in the trade and took it as seriously as Angier (the showmanship of the magician) and Borden (the artistry of the magician) clearly did, it can certainly be considered an area of deep thought. The trade not only in large part contributed to the development of their characters but it also largely defined their characters, dominating not only their trade and who they were on the surface but their psychology and philosophy. It was the driving force behind their most significant choices and actions throughout the film.
I'm just saying, unless the audience is composed entirely of magicians, thats really not a relevent theme at all.
They're anti-heroes, or tragic heroes, but not villians. 'Borden' did what he did for his job. He was obssessive and somewhat morally suspect, sure, but hardly villianous at all. He obviously loved his wife and daughter. He just needed absolute secrecy for his act to work. Leonard was a tragic victim of his own obsession and mental illness. He's pitiable, not villianous.
Compared to the Joker these guys are really not that great. You're letting fanboyism cloud your judgment my friend.
A theme can still be relevant even if the audience isn't intimately familiar with its workings, especially when the film itself does such a good job of explaining its workings, how it impacts the psychology and philosophy of the characters, the development and make up of the characters, and the setting and plot of the film.
Sometimes the greatest of villains are, in fact, tragic heroes or anti-heroes themselves. I'd be fine with labelling them as either, personally. Leanord in Memento, is essentially his own antagonist; one of the themes was how reliable his own notes in fact were and one of his worries was whether somebody might be manipulating him, and as his state was in the main portion of the film, the idea that they had been tampered with would have been of great confusion and frustation, and would have conflicted with what he then considered his goals to be. Leanord is essentially both protagonist and antagonist of the story, and when you consider the philosophy behind identity and memory you could almost consider him as in fact being made up of distinct characters and motivations entirely. Borden in The Prestige, meanwhile, is quite literally made up of multiple different characters, and in the sense that the characters exist as one and make their choices and actions in tandem, in concert, we can attribute their activities to a collective individual we can simply refer to as "Borden". And while one half may have loved his wife, the other certainly didn't, and in tandem they presented her with this conflicting and contradictory nature, loving her one day, not loving her the other. Their choice to live this inhumane existence, to shift the burden on those closest to them, and see the results of that burden and willingly persist in their activities can be considered the activities of a villian. And whether or not they're better villains than the Joker they're certainly better characters.
If we go by Gideon's criteria then Bob the Dragon is teh best villian. He can destroy all the multiverses in a picrosecond and manipulated every person ever personally into loving him for 20 gazillion years. Also he has 12 wangs and I do not question why.
Truely, he is a villianous God amongst villianous ants.