Lord Lucien
Hey, mister.
Hey, you. uhuh
Lord Lucien
You... watch your tone, whoever you are. I went along with the Palpatinopolis because I assumed that everyone else knew what they were talking about and had all the definitive sources to back it up
Though I am a new member and did not have the pleasure of experiencing Gideon in action (something for which I'm rather sad; he seemed rather dreamy and charming. Definitely an e-visionary of truly e-epic proportions, really.), he seemed to be pretty solid in the citing sources department.
Lord Lucien
--regardless of my own feelings towards how the pre-PT Jedi and Sith should be viewed as stronger. I sacrificed that to maintain a canon status quo.
Your loyalty is commendable.
Lord Lucien
But then Nai came back and pulled a "third person limited narrative"
Spoiler:
For novels and novelizations; most of the quotes compiled by Gideon and co. were from sourcebooks, guides, and literature intended for informative purposes -- the very same things that this 'Nai' figure relied on in his arguments against Palpatine and in favor of other characters.
Lord Lucien
and suddenly everything was all like "whhoooooaaaaaaaaa!!!!"
You were on acid? haermm
Lord Lucien
EDIT: Besides, what's wrong with being a f*cking whore?
STDs.
truejedi
What Nai did was merely weaken the argument that Yoda was the greatest foe the darkness had ever known.
Well said.
I don't know you very well, but you seem to be a beacon of reason and chastity in this abyss of ignorance and sexual impurity.
truejedi
However, the entire argument for the Ancient Sith rests on Kreia's testimony. Something that has no credibility.
😂
truejedi
(I MOVED TO CHICAGO!!!! aaahhh!!! and got 2 days of work already!!! bam!)
Pornstar? he
Originally posted by truejediIf you see Ferris, tell him I hope he'd doing better.
What Nai did was merely weaken the argument that Yoda was the greatest foe the darkness had ever known.However, the entire argument for the Ancient Sith rests on Kreia's testimony. Something that has no credibility.
(I MOVED TO CHICAGO!!!! aaahhh!!! and got 2 days of work already!!! bam!)
I didn't even consider Kreia.
I was thinking of Ragnos' reign, Sadow's supernova, Exar's amulet blasts/freezing/that other thing, Sion's resurrection, Nihilus' Drain, Malgus and Satele's TFU stunts, the Brotherhood's Lightning Bomb... all way more impressive. At least until DE. Force Unleashed and the Clone Wars show have added some more impressive displays since though, but none of them can forgive the films' (especially the PT's) comparative lack of flair.
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzSo tell that f*cking firefighter to get off his ass win that argument with Nai.
For novels and novelizations; most of the quotes compiled by Gideon and co. were from sourcebooks, guides, and literature intended for informative purposes -- the very same things that this 'Nai' figure relied on in his arguments [b]against Palpatine and in favor of other characters. [/B]
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulz
Though I am a new member and did not have the pleasure of experiencing Gideon in action (something for which I'm rather sad; he seemed rather dreamy and charming. Definitely an e-visionary of truly e-epic proportions, really.), he seemed to be pretty solid in the citing sources department.
You didn't miss much. 😉
Lord Lucien
I didn't even consider Kreia.
Well you should. ahuh
Lord Lucien
I was thinking of Ragnos' reign,
If you think about this superficially, I could see how this is indicative of some extraordinary Force power in the grand scheme of things. But you don't, so you can't. More importantly, the sources confirm that Ragnos relied on manipulation and deceit to ensure his primacy as much as outright strength. That's like saying that because Palpatine ruled the whole galaxy for twenty years longer than... well, anyone else, that he's the most powerful Sith ever.
Pretty flimsy.
Lord Lucien
Sadow's supernova,
Lord Lucien
Exar's amulet blasts/freezing/that other thing,
These are the products of Force-enhancing technology that vastly enhances the users' powers. If technologically-induced destruction is a criteria for great power, I submit to you that Palpatine still wins by virtue of the Death Star, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, etc.
Lord Lucien
Sion's resurrection,
Sion isn't the only Sith Lord to return from the dead (Sidious, Kun, Ragnos, etc.) nor is he the only one to restore his physical form (Krayt).
Lord Lucien
Nihilus' Drain,
Palpatine has demonstrated use of this technique on nearly twenty billion people, which is several orders of magnitude higher than Nihilus's body count of the same technique, and he's demonstrated an impressively refined control over it.
Lord Lucien
Malgus and Satele's TFU stunts,
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Video-game trailers or is there something I'm missing from the novels?
Lord Lucien
the Brotherhood's Lightning Bomb... all way more impressive.
The product of several Sith Lords channeling their power in unison and with aid from a ritual.
Lord Lucien
At least until DE. Force Unleashed and the Clone Wars show have added some more impressive displays since though, but none of them can forgive the films' (especially the PT's) comparative lack of flair.
Perhaps.
The feats of the older Sith are impressive, but most of them are hardly godly when one considers the circumstances in which they were performed.
Lord Lucien
So tell that f*cking firefighter to get off his ass win that argument with Nai.
He was banned, you see.
But the last argument between him and Nai went unanswered; Nai vanished (presumably because of real life demands).
ares834
You didn't miss much. 😉
He never liked you and found your penis most... unsatisfying. stoned
Spoiler:
J/k, before you start crying: I have it on good authority that he was quite fond of you.
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzA century of unopposed rule over a portion of the galaxy filled with ambitious, backstabbing, deceitful Dark Siders, via the use of brute force, fear, cunning, and deceit.
If you think about this superficially, I could see how this is indicative of some extraordinary Force power in the grand scheme of things. But you don't, so you can't. More importantly, the sources confirm that Ragnos relied on manipulation and deceit to ensure his primacy as much as outright strength. That's like saying that because Palpatine ruled the whole galaxy for twenty years longer than... well, anyone else, that he's the most powerful Sith ever.Pretty flimsy.
or
A 1/4 century rule over a larger portion of the galaxy filled with insurrection, rebels, alliances, rebel alliances, treachery (Zaarin), and enforced (to no ultimate avail) via brute force, fear, cunning, and deceit.
My Super Ficial Sense point towards Ragnos.
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzThese technologies that enhanced their users Force-powers... enhanced their users' Force-powers. If the Death Stars, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, etc. were all enhancing Palaptine's powers, then... well his powers must have really sucked, eh?
These are the products of Force-enhancing technology that vastly enhances the users' powers. If technologically-induced destruction is a criteria for great power, I submit to you that Palpatine still wins by virtue of the Death Star, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, etc.
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzSion=Force-animated undead corpse. Cool!
Sion isn't the only Sith Lord to return from the dead (Sidious, Kun, Ragnos, etc.) nor is he the only one to restore his physical form (Krayt).
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzNot instantaneously, nor blacking out large swaths of the galaxy to other Force users. Though I'll give it, that one is pretty freaking impressive.
Palpatine has demonstrated use of this technique on nearly twenty [b]billion people, which is several orders of magnitude higher than Nihilus's body count of the same technique, and he's demonstrated an impressively refined control over it.[/B]
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzThose video-game trailers=more impressive than anything G-canon movie Palaptine has ever done. Da fuuuck is up with that?
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Video-game trailers or is there something I'm missing from the novels?
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzIf Palpatine's the God he is, shouldn't he, with all his power and knowledge be able to do something similar even pre-DE?
The product of several Sith Lords channeling their power in unison and with aid from a ritual.
Originally posted by PencilInEyelulzPerhaps.
Perhaps.The feats of the older Sith are impressive, but most of them are hardly godly when one considers the circumstances in which they were performed.
But considering the highest canon version of Palpatine's combative powers is his duel with Yoda... amulet blasts, Lightning Storms, Giga Drains, supernovas, and that thing from that guy, are all far more impressive than lifting senate pods.
Lord Lucien
A century of unopposed rule over a portion of the galaxy filled with ambitious, backstabbing, deceitful Dark Siders, via the use of brute force, fear, cunning, and deceit.or
A 1/4 century rule over a larger portion of the galaxy filled with insurrection, rebels, alliances, rebel alliances, treachery (Zaarin), and enforced (to no ultimate avail) via brute force, fear, cunning, and deceit.
My Super Ficial Sense point towards Ragnos.
You probably want to spend some time honing your senses, then, since you seemed to have disregarded the plenty of "ambitious, backstabbing, deceitful Dark Siders" operating in Palpatine's Empire, as well as Separatist holdouts and Jedi. Palpatine assumed the task of ruling an exponentially greater swath of territory, and his enemies and potential traitors were far greater in size and scope than those during Ragnos's empire, when one considers that the Separatists and rebels were galactic-spanning organizations with immense resources. His reign was infinitely more burdensome. Policing millions of worlds versus.... 120? Now, I'm not a big math fan, but.... 😂
Lord Lucien
These technologies that enhanced their users Force-powers... enhanced their users' Force-powers. If the Death Stars, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, etc. were all enhancing Palaptine's powers, then... well his powers must have really sucked, eh?
I'm going to assume that the Canadian dictionary (if you even have those) carries the definition for the word 'enhance' and, in America at least, it means that those feats are not the result of the Force user's natural energies.
So, I say again, if technology-induced destruction is an indication of personal power or strength in the Force, your boys still lose.
Lord Lucien
Sion=Force-animated undead corpse. Cool!
Undead corpse? So is Edward Cullen. Not cool.
Lord Lucien
Ragnos/Kun=Possessed Host.
Krayt= Iunno, I haven't cared enough to look it up.
Sidious=Clone. Oh... boring!
I haven't cared to look it up and boring? You must be reaching deep within the antediluvian bag of tricks to unleash such epic reasoning upon your adversary.
With tactics like these, how they were ever defeated by THE MIGHTY GIDEON befuddles me.
Lord Lucien
Not instantaneously, nor blacking out large swaths of the galaxy to other Force users.
Palpatine singlehandedly blunted Jedi sensitivity across a galactic scale, that's pretty cool.
Lord Lucien
Though I'll give it, that one is pretty freaking impressive.
Almost as impressive as your Canadian munificence.
Lord Lucien
Those video-game trailers=more impressive than anything G-canon movie Palaptine has ever done. Da fuuuck is up with that?
Spoiler:
George is something of a minimalist and cares more about the story (and profit) than scale?
Lord Lucien
If Palpatine's the God he is,
He's not a god. And certainly not of the capital G variety.
Lord Lucien
shouldn't he, with all his power and knowledge be able to do something similar even pre-DE?
Your commendable imitation of antediluvian reasoning is as mesmerizing as it is faithful, but I'm afraid this doesn't make any sense: Palpatine did perform some pretty badass feats prior to Dark Empire.
Lord Lucien
Perhaps.But considering the highest canon version of Palpatine's combative powers is his duel with Yoda... amulet blasts, Lightning Storms, Giga Drains, supernovas, and that thing from that guy, are all far more impressive than lifting senate pods.
Your selective interpretation of canon is most displeasing. Fortunately, I (through application of quotes from Lucas, the ROTS novelization, etc.) can play the same game. And win.