I like how he very subtly insinuates that Plinkett used actors in his review rather than friends (Which he didn't. In fact, he's currently doing his new series with one of them).
I can see the case that there being two main characters leads into Plinketts point that theres no clear protagonist. Raynor says that they switch in the middle where Anakin is the focus and I concurr. Though I neverfelt that Qui-Gon was more the main character than Kenobi at the start, and definately not the end where he dies.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Thank you.Though I suspect that this compliment is not, in fact, genuine and is instead a barb spawned from a thinly-veiled jealousy regarding the fact that no one in your life has ever loved you.
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Its presumptous that you assume that doesn't apply to yourself as well. We havn't even moved in together yet.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I like how he very subtly insinuates that Plinkett used actors in his review rather than friends (Which he didn't. In fact, he's currently doing his new series with one of them).
You consider that subtle, eh?
Originally posted by Nephthys
I can see the case that there being two main characters leads into Plinketts point that theres no clear protagonist.
Because Plinkett is supposedly highly educated in the world of cinema, that he failed to grasp this concept has always perplexed me. Raynor's correct in that The Phantom Menace follows Qui-Gon's journey. Not only is he the one the film directly follows the most, he is also the character who connects Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme together.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Raynor says that they switch in the middle where Anakin is the focus and I concurr. Though I neverfelt that Qui-Gon was more the main character than Kenobi at the start, and definately not the end where he dies.
Obi-Wan is the deuteragonist.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
You consider that subtle, eh?Because Plinkett is supposedly highly educated in the world of cinema, that he failed to grasp this concept has always perplexed me. Raynor's correct in that The Phantom Menace follows Qui-Gon's journey. Not only is he the one the film directly follows the most, he is also the character who connects Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme together.
Obi-Wan is the deuteragonist.
Sorry, let me correct that:
I like how he "VERY SUBTLY" insinuates that Plinkett used actors in his review rather than friends (Which he didn't. In fact, he's currently doing his new series with one of them).
Meh, personally I never felt like Qui-Gon actually went on a journey. He just kind of did stuff. Also (and you probably wont believe me) but I also never felt that he was the protaonist. But different stroke again I guess.
Spoiler:
A movie with no clear antagonist or protagonist is cool right?
He is? Is that why he does nothing of importance throught 95% of the movie? 😛
Its called the Phantom Menace right? awecraz
Originally posted by SOME JERKFACE.
Yeah, I sure struggled to find something to say about Qui-Gon. Couldn't describe him
with a single word...instead I went on for several hundred.
Except you didn't do it on the spot did you? You had weeks or months to think up arguments. And you probably watched the movie multiple times recently to find stuff to put in your shitty essay, didn't you?
She's like a mannequin, or a creepy living doll. No personality whatsoever...if you think that's the entirety of her characterization, in total defiance of how she acted outside of her identity as the queen, then you aren't thinking this through at all. The question everyone should ask themselves is "Why would anyone ever choose to dress and act like this?" We know Padmé acts differently, and can actually express emotion and crack a smile when the makeup is off. The truth is that she feels trapped in her role as the queen. Why else would she put on so many awkward dresses and paint her face in
ghostly makeup?
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Originally posted by Nephthys
Its called the [b]Phantom Menace right? awecraz[/b]
That's quite possibly the silliest of Plinkett's many silly assertions.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Except you didn't do it on the spot did you? You had weeks or months to think up arguments. And you probably watched the movie multiple times recently to find stuff to put in your shitty essay, didn't you?
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Originally posted by Nephthys
I never knew that so simple an act as looking out of a window could so thoroughly convey character.
R-really?
Non-dialogue scenes such as that are used all the times for character establishment and development. That's why every minute of every film doesn't consist of just dialogue.
Originally posted by Nephthys
What?
Your rant is silly.
It's rather obvious that Padme is an emotional wreck by AOTC. She's so desperate and fvcked up that she marries a guy a week after seeing him for the first time in ten years. That, and she's so driven by a desire to help people, that she runs headlong into danger and readily engages in battle like its a national pastime on Naboo.
This woman is fvcked. A broken and fvcked woman sexually attracted to a broken and fvcked man.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
R-really?
Non-dialogue scenes such as that are used all the times for character establishment and development. That's why every minute of every film doesn't consist of just dialogue.
No not really r-tard. I'm being flippant.
But seriously this guy is pulling shit straight out of his ass thats never hinted at in the movie and that the actors aren't talented enough to portray.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No not really r-tard. I'm being flippant.
Spoiler:
Which is more than a little amusing, given how much you hate it when someone is flippant to you. Don't let Raynor's utter annihilation of Plinkett's arguments get to you, my son.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But seriously this guy is pulling shit straight out of his ass thats never hinted at in the movie and that the actors aren't talented enough to portray.
Raynor's arguments are credible and are hardly the result of sheer fiat. He does a much better job drawing from the source material than Plinkett does.
I like how so many people are rationalizing the characters and plots, when we really shouldn't have to. I'm all for speculation and extra-film sources to expand the universe, but the movie alone should be showing us the characters' traits and thoughts. The PT more often has to tell us what those are, or doesn't at all. The fact that we need to sit down and do the rationalizing and listing of personalities is pretty sad.