Originally posted by Accel
Eh, it's not all bad. The Iceman advocates brought up some good points before. None of them are mindless fanboys or anything.
Thank you.....
that's cool -- i can actually live with that. imo ss's speed (something stranger does NOT possess) makes even that one win difficult though.
in a book, i imagine bobby likely WOULD give ss some trouble, but i also see ss being able to resist bobby's attacks. i don't think bobby flash freezes him and it's over -- or maybe he would but ss would end up breaking free of his control. stranger has not shown the level of matter manipulation ss has. to say iceman's control of matter exceeds ss's just doesn't seem feasible to me. and even if the macro-level (the 'power level'😉 is similar, ss's experience and precision would likely supercede iceman's.
i'll give you credit bw -- you stirred up quite a little cauldron. but, while i can see him possibly taking superman (though i contend supes could also take him via speed much like ss) and perhaps even thor (though again, it's possible thor might resist long enough to counterattack) ss's powerset is what gives him this fight, imo. as for bobby -- we need more evidence. the character you've painted shouldn't be part of a team. he should be single-handedly crushing EVERYONE. has he been defeated since this powerup?
Thank you too. And I can live with your opinion. As to the question, yes but not completely. The fact of the matter is that hes been having nothing but bad luck (Romance wise, Power wise [second mutation, no mutation, then he himself willed himself NOT to have powers but they got it back....]. He hasnt had a chance to really shine with the stories being mostly about Havok, Polaris, Gambit and Rouge and only having Iceman for the romance in the book.
Although people having been talkin about House of M Iceman like he was something special. Anyone know anything about this?? I didnt get the series.