The Avengers vs Superman & Captain Marvel

Started by batdude1238 pages

Originally posted by olympian
" Common sense would tell you that Superman's high showings far outweigh those of these three (excluding Ironman). "

Nope. And not in all departments either. Durability sure. Strenght for example? Definatly not. Hulk alone has better feats. Herc alone has some better ones. I kind of ask again, where does the definite proof comes from?

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"Superman's high showings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Namor's, Hercules's, and Wonder Man's high showings."

No. Even Namor broke a restraining force that Galactus didnt.

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"So what was he holding in his hand?

Does anybody else have any thoughts on this?"

What was the "machine" that was keeping the BH, called?

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"The fact that you are comparing these three guy's high showings against a man who has taken down the entire JLA singlehandedly more than once is stardling"

And each one of these have done pretty well alone against a being whos done the same in theyr universe....so?

Herc defeated a Terminus and look what he did to the Jla. Ok i kid, you dont use the crossover.

Btw. The fight your mentioning is the one Supes wet mad? And Orion stalemated him, or another.

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"Versatility with their powersets means jack sh*t compared to Superman. He eats people like Hercules, Wonder Man, and Namor for breakfasts in damn near every comic. Please stop comparing those three's high feats against Superman's because their is NO comparison"

weep

Why do you even read comics then. They dont write the characters like you WANT to. Whats the point of you doing it.

Your crossing the fanboysm line there.

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"And Captain Marvel is every bit Superman's equal so I really don't see how they could take this without them doing something totally miraculous that they've never done before and Superman and Captain Marvel fight like dumbasses."

But "miracles do happen". Look at Korvac, Ultron, Terminus, Hulk, Typhon,...renske

"Nope. And not in all departments either. Durability sure. Strenght for example? Definatly not. Hulk alone has better feats. Herc alone has some better ones. I kind of ask again, where does the definite proof comes from?"

Uh... flying out of a double black hole requires an incalcuably amount of strength behind it. Also, if you are going to continue to compare Namor's, Hercules's, and Wonder Man's feats at their highest level, then why not use Superman's at his highest? Superman has defeated four gods before he has gone so fast that he created a boomtube and teleported himself.

C'mon, you're comparing Superman, Superman my God to three powerhouses that while yes they have impressive feats, granted, but Superman has feats that would make their heads spin.

"No. Even Namor broke a restraining force that Galactus didnt."

And with that, don't you think there comes a little bit of PIS as well? Or are you litterally trying to compare Namor to Galactus? 😐 Btw, Dr. Strange was hardly even concentrating on holding Namor in the Cytorrak bands.

"Why do you even read comics then. They dont write the characters like you WANT to. Whats the point of you doing it.

Your crossing the fanboysm line there."

You may call me a fan-boy, but everybody here knows that Superman would pwn those three while CM took care of IM. Who's crossing the lines of fanboyism now? They are ABSOLUTELY nothing Superman hasn't delt with before.

"Uh... flying out of a double black hole requires an incalcuably amount of strength behind it"

Flying off a black hole isent a strenght feat. Its speed and mostly durability.

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"Also, if you are going to continue to compare Namor's, Hercules's, and Wonder Man's feats at their highest level, then why not use Superman's at his highest? Superman has defeated four gods before he has gone so fast that he created a boomtube and teleported himself."

And i am comparing. Im not the one saying the Avengers will definatly win or have it easy despise the high showings pll in the group have.

That fight with the four Gods. Didnt Iron ended up weakening them? In his human form, Ball was stalemating Superman in an armwrestle.

Even so its a high end, just like the Avengers doing also against the Olympian Gods and guys even more powerful.

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"And with that, don't you think there comes a little bit of PIS as well? Or are you litterally trying to compare Namor to Galactus? Btw, Dr. Strange was hardly even concentrating on holding Namor in the Cytorrak bands."

Thats what high end showings are. Its not different than Superman literally punking Darkseid, or standing against Angels like Asmodel that even the Presence noticed about them when they went against Heaven.

Are you comparing Superman to high Angels too?

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"You may call me a fan-boy, but everybody here knows that Superman would pwn those three while CM took care of IM. Who's crossing the lines of fanboyism now? They are ABSOLUTELY nothing Superman hasn't delt with before."

And your doing it again. The simple fact Comics dont show Superman -owning- his fellow top tiers not EVEN when hes amped up or berserk shows that you are w-r-o-n-g.

Ergo, your using a version of the character that is your own and not the one regulary written.

Otherwise youd have common sense, at least a bit of it and realize that the Avengers also have encountered things, that Superman never dealt with. Like Uber Korvac and pre retcon Beyonder.

Team DC wins. Super speed, flight, super strength, invulnerability, heat vision and magic lightning take it for them.

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Originally posted by olympian
"Uh... flying out of a double black hole requires an incalcuably amount of strength behind it"

Flying off a black hole isent a strenght feat. Its speed and mostly durability.

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"Also, if you are going to continue to compare Namor's, Hercules's, and Wonder Man's feats at their highest level, then why not use Superman's at his highest? Superman has defeated four gods before he has gone so fast that he created a boomtube and teleported himself."

And i am comparing. Im not the one saying the Avengers will definatly win or have it easy despise the high showings pll in the group have.

That fight with the four Gods. Didnt Iron ended up weakening them? In his human form, Ball was stalemating Superman in an armwrestle.

Even so its a high end, just like the Avengers doing also against the Olympian Gods and guys even more powerful.

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"And with that, don't you think there comes a little bit of PIS as well? Or are you litterally trying to compare Namor to Galactus? Btw, Dr. Strange was hardly even concentrating on holding Namor in the Cytorrak bands."

Thats what high end showings are. Its not different than Superman literally punking Darkseid, or standing against Angels like Asmodel that even the Presence noticed about them when they went against Heaven.

Are you comparing Superman to high Angels too?

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"You may call me a fan-boy, but everybody here knows that Superman would pwn those three while CM took care of IM. Who's crossing the lines of fanboyism now? They are ABSOLUTELY nothing Superman hasn't delt with before."

And your doing it again. The simple fact Comics dont show Superman -owning- his fellow top tiers not EVEN when hes amped up or berserk shows that you are w-r-o-n-g.

Ergo, your using a version of the character that is your own and not the one regulary written.

Otherwise youd have common sense, at least a bit of it and realize that the Avengers also have encountered things, that Superman never dealt with. Like Uber Korvac and pre retcon Beyonder.

Once again all of Superman's top feats beat out the Avengers. Superman by himself has taken down universal level beings. Because people here either really hate his character, or what he's all about they sorely underestimate him.

And yes, as a giant team have done well in the past, but these are only four of that team and four managable ones for Supes and Marvel. IM might give CM some trouble, especially with his new extremis armor, but he'd still go down in the end. That leaves Superman with three other ones that have almost no versatility when compared to him. Yes, they have had their feats in the past, but they should not be beating Superman.

The super speed, flight, heat vision hotter than anyone can measure as well as all of the other forms of his visions, ice breath, durability, strength, super senses, and vibrating tricks of Superman would clinch the match against the other three. Yes, they have shown some versatility with their powersets in the past, but I don't see Hercules pulling heat vision or super speed OR ice breath out of his ass every fight. 😬 I see him a guy who's best shot at beating Superman would be if Superman were to just go h2h against him, and even then it's iffy. If Superman utilizes his attack speed, then the three are dead. Combined with the fact that he can think and react MUCH faster than them, they're f*cked.

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Marvel team goes down 7-8/10.

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