Vader vs Kenobi

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Originally posted by PurpleSaber
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No he isn't. You are mistaken.

Yes master. I am mistaken........mistaken.........mistaken......

*gets hypnotised, falls asleep, and forgets about Overlord* 😖leep:

Wait.. You're from february.. You're not supposed to know me.

Why am I not getting bashed by new guys? What's going on? Have people been warned about me in advance? My privacy is invaded again!!

You were still posting in Feb.

Overlord is back! Woo!

Any whom, about the topic. Vader would just choke him. Vader has been studying the force for over 20 years with Sidious and his suit didn't even set him back that far. I mean, by the time of purge he was confident enough to take on Obi Wan again in a re-match. If anyone can choke Kenobi, it's Vader, and I'm pretty sure he could.I mean Vader has:
Choked Ozzel from far away on his ship.
Choked three people at once: http://www.swcomics.com/empire_c.php?i=8&f=19&name=Star_Wars_-_Empire_19
Choked a Jedi: http://www.swcomics.com/Empire_Era_c.php?i=15&f=36&name=Purge
And, or course,
The Power Choke: http://www.swcomics.com/republic_c.php?i=6&f=78&name=Rise_of_Vader_-_Loyalties

Vader tools him with the force.

For starters he doesn't choke 3 people at once but 2 people, look again, he chokes 2 and then after than he chokes the third one. I was unaware that he was choking the Jedi. I tought he just held her there with the Force and then went over and snapped her neck with his hand. But at any rate it's going to be alot harder to choke Obi-Wan than it was to choke Shadday. And it's not like Obi-Wan's just gonan stand there and let Vader choke hi, either.

Hm. RotS Obi-Wan Kenobi got force-pwned by Dooku.

RotS Sidious is > than Dooku in force powers, I'm guessing.

RotJ Sidious would be stronger in the force by a decent amount. He spent 20 years studying the dark side. He was addicted to it...

Vader is 80% of that.

I can deduce that he can force choke Kenobi.

80% as powerful in Force Potential! Not actual knowledge and strength...

Originally posted by DePWNZOR
80% as powerful in Force Potential! Not actual knowledge and strength...

Lucas didnt say potential, he said 'power'. Take that for what you will.

80% as powerful in Force Potential! Not actual knowledge and strength...

Since when does "80% as powerful as Palpatine" mean "80% of the potential"?

It's not a hard concept to grasp.

Originally posted by Razielim
[b]80% as powerful in Force Potential! Not actual knowledge and strength...

Since when does "80% as powerful as Palpatine" mean "80% of the potential"?

It's not a hard concept to grasp. [/B]

Power could be interpreted as potential. Or it could not. Uncertain terms are teh evil.

Vader would win. I just read the passage from A New Hope (written by G-Luc himself) and Kenobi says that both himself and Vader have matured in power, but then Vader went on to defeat Kenobi. Vader beat a more powerful version of Kenobi, so he could defeat ROTS with relative ease.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Vader would win. I just read the passage from A New Hope (written by G-Luc himself) and Kenobi says that both himself and Vader have matured in power, but then Vader went on to defeat Kenobi. Vader beat a more powerful version of Kenobi, so he could defeat ROTS with relative ease.

Yes, he did say Vader went on to defeat Kenobi, hence Kenobi getting "killed".

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Vader would win. I just read the passage from A New Hope (written by G-Luc himself) and Kenobi says that both himself and Vader have matured in power, but then Vader went on to defeat Kenobi. Vader beat a more powerful version of Kenobi, so he could defeat ROTS with relative ease.

WTF? I always remember neither of them being able to overcome the other. They were effectively stalemated.

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
WTF? I always remember neither of them being able to overcome the other. They were effectively stalemated.

Until.....Kenobi was killed.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Until.....Kenobi was killed.

Erm, did you watch the movie? I seem to remember Kenobi turning his lightsabre off, not getting dominated by Vader.

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Erm, did you watch the movie? I seem to remember Kenobi turning his lightsabre off, not getting dominated by Vader.

Well anyways he wouldnt of turned his lightsaber off if he thought he had a chance of winning. Vader was always supposed to be the stronger one.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Well anyways he wouldnt of turned his lightsaber off if he thought he had a chance of winning. Vader was always supposed to be the stronger one.

The ANH commentary makes it clear that Kenobi killed himself so Luke could escape. Vader and Kenobi were effectively equal in terms of fighting prowess.

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
The ANH commentary makes it clear that Kenobi killed himself so Luke could escape. Vader and Kenobi were effectively equal in terms of fighting prowess.

Thats news to me, could you put it in GL's exact words? And that argument 'Ben killed himself so Luke could escape' doesnt make much sense to me being Ben would of bought Luke *more* time if he just kept fighting.

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Erm, did you watch the movie? I seem to remember Kenobi turning his lightsabre off, not getting dominated by Vader.

And if you continue to watch the movie yu'll notice how Obi-Wans light sabre starts to shorten and thin out during the match. He was fighting a losing battle.