Darth Nihilus versus Mace, Yoda, Dooku and Sidious

Started by truejedi14 pages

"hauled" is a much less definitive word than "ripped" or "tore"

I would be willing to doubt that "hauled" means he uses the force. that sounds like he used machinery.

N was stranded on Malachor V, surrounded by a bunch of crushed ships. He was a soldier during the Mandalorian Wars that was stuck on the planet during the battle.

What machinery was he going to use to tear a multi million kiloton vessel out of an artificial gravity well?

Originally posted by truejedi
"hauled" is a much less definitive word than "ripped" or "tore"

I would be willing to doubt that "hauled" means he uses the force. that sounds like he used machinery.

Could also imply a slow, strained pull. I don't think it's ever stated how long it took him.

There would be an escape velocity that N would have to overcome if he was pulling it out of the gravity well.

Originally posted by Lucius
There would be an escape velocity that N would have to overcome if he was pulling it out of the gravity well.
Escape velocity could techincally be anything.

It's just that going 80 miles an hour on a slow incline takes up a lot of fuel and eventually you would be burning twice the fule for the same speed.

What makes what he did impressive was that Malachor 5 didn't exactly have the most stable gravity field?. Dammit, forgot the terminology.

Originally posted by Lucius
N was stranded on Malachor V, surrounded by a bunch of crushed ships. He was a soldier during the Mandalorian Wars that was stuck on the planet during the battle.

What machinery was he going to use to tear a multi million kiloton vessel out of an artificial gravity well?

a different ship with a tractor beam? They have those in star wars. Who says he was stuck when he commandeered the ravager?

Where, exactly, have we seen a tractor beam powerful enough to liberate a ship from a gravity well? I'd like the source and citation, please.

explain the strength of a "gravity well" first.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
So we are going to take the word of someone with no force sensitivity, and who has no understanding of the force and its' workings? Riiiiight.

His word is better than yours.

Then again, who's isn't?

Originally posted by truejedi
explain the strength of a "gravity well" first.

link

no Kyle, HOW powerful was this one? From the googled link (which I googled before asking you, btw) it seems as though they can vary A LOT.

(oh, the Vong throwing a Moon on Serndipal is the answer to the question anyway, regardless of your upcoming sheepish admission that you don't have any idea)

The actual strength of the well is probably between 0.5-1.3G or so since the party members in KOTOR II can walk around perfectly fine on the surface of Malachor V. The gravity in orbit around the "planet" wouldn't be much different until you started getting into really high orbits. It would just be in a state of free fall (falling around the planet.)

Originally posted by truejedi
explain the strength of a "gravity well" first.
Gravity wells are what big things in space have.

EDIT: What I was implying wasn't about the strength, but the instability. If it was drifting in orbit, then Nihilus would have had to have brought it down, carefully, then held it there or landed it on a flat plane, either that occurred naturally or that he forcefully made and held with telekinesis.

If it was on ground, it simplifies it.

Either way, Nihilus when he ain't starving is damned powerful. He might have potentially ended up omnomming whole galaxies at a time...

Well their life force anyway.

Originally posted by Letum Lettow
Gravity wells are what big things in space have.

EDIT: What I was implying wasn't about the strength, but the instability. If it was drifting in orbit, then Nihilus would have had to have brought it down, carefully, then held it there or landed it on a flat plane, either that occurred naturally or that he forcefully made and held with telekinesis.

If it was on ground, it simplifies it.

Either way, Nihilus when he ain't starving is damned powerful. He might have potentially ended up omnomming whole galaxies at a time...

where does it say he did that with the force?

Oh come on, really?

you ignored my Serndipal comment then?

It's irrelevant. Nemesis asked for evidence confirming the existence of a tractor beam powerful enough to haul the Ravager off-world and into space. It should be obvious that he was looking for something that existed within the known galaxy and that Nihilus or his minions actually had a hope of accessing, and it's implied that said machinery would need to be able to act on something smaller than the moon.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
His word is better than yours.

Then again, who's isn't?

Notice how you're not getting responses?

Originally posted by truejedi
no Kyle, HOW powerful was this one? From the googled link (which I googled before asking you, btw) it seems as though they can vary A LOT.
Originally posted by Lucius
The actual strength of the well is probably between 0.5-1.3G or so since the party members in KOTOR II can walk around perfectly fine on the surface of Malachor V. The gravity in orbit around the "planet" wouldn't be much different until you started getting into really high orbits. It would just be in a state of free fall (falling around the planet.)
Originally posted by truejedi
(oh, the Vong throwing a Moon on Serndipal is the answer to the question anyway, regardless of your upcoming sheepish admission that you don't have any idea)
Originally posted by Eminence
It's irrelevant. Nemesis asked for evidence confirming the existence of a tractor beam powerful enough to haul the Ravager off-world and into space. It should be obvious that he was looking for something that existed within the known galaxy and that Nihilus or his minions actually had a hope of accessing, and it's implied that said machinery would need to be able to act on something smaller than the moon.

Have you noticed that you only use my name when you're getting frustrated?