Originally posted by Darth Jello
I thought that the the periostium (outside layer) of his bones was bonded with adamantium and went through a chemical change becoming Adamantium-Beta. Basically the outside layer of his bone is adamantium, it's porous so he still has marrow and produces blood cells, his bones still grow and change with his body, and they're virtually indestructible. So basically, if he got the Hulk mad enough to where he got a compound fracture or he got a little to close to some antarctic vibranium. As long as some portion of that original bone remained intact, the bone would heal with an adamantium coating. Tell me if I'm wrong on that.
this is correct to a point it is fused also within the bone it self which is why when magneto seperated it, it shatter the bones.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
As long as some portion of that original bone remained intact, the bone would heal with an adamantium coating. Tell me if I'm wrong on that.
This is pretty much the way it works in his movies. Magneto bent Wolverine's claws in the train scene and he was shot through the brain in the latest film and the adamantium reverted to normal.
In the comics, this may not be the case but there is a Wolverine one-shot called inner fury where he is infected with nanites which causes his healing factor to attack the adamantium on his bones. He ends up becoming deformed and his claws are exposed as bone. At the end of the comic, he pops his bone claws into his brain and it reboots his immune system. The Adamantium ends up reforming back on his bones. The comic came out in 1992 before Magneto pulled the adamantium from his bones, so it may not be cannon.
Alright guys, here's the truth from an avid Wolverine who has read every, yes, EVERY Wolverine comic.
Can he die? Yes, if he is drowned, shot into space, thrown in a volcano (maybe, for a reason I will say later)
Now, how tough would it be? Very. Wolverine survived being nuked at Hiroshima (that was even before he had his adamantium skeleton!), and at one point he even grew his whole body back from just one drop of blood (of course, that was with the aid of a magic crystal that was like uber powerful). Now, with the adamantium skeleton he is nigh invincible. Why? Because his bones are completely coated in an indestructible metal, and inside that metal, completely protected, is his bone marrow, so even in comics where he is completely incinerated, he grows everything back.
Now, as to if he could grow limbs back, with his adamantium skeleton, he would just reattach the arm or leg and it wuold knit back together. However, he could grow back the arm, just without the adamantium. Proof? X-23, who is a clone of Wolverine, once has her arm cut off, so she pulls the blades out, gives them to a friend to escape with, while she stays back and battles on. When she is re-united with them later, her arm has grown back, but her claws are just bone, so she has someone rip them out and reattach her adamantium claws. Also, if you need another example, Deadpool, who his healing factor is based on Wolverines (yet is more powerful than Wolverine's, just like X-23's and Daken's is, because Wolverine's has to constantly battle adamanitum poisoning. When Magneto rips the admanatium off of him, his healing ability shorts out for a while, but when it comes back, it is faster than ever). Anyway, Deadpool is constantly having his hands, fingers, just about everything cut off, and it grows back. At the mercenary hideout, he sometimes cuts his own finger off just so people can bet on how long it takes it to grow back!
Also, I do not believe even drowning or being tossed into space would kill Wolverine. What I thin would happen is should Wolverine drown, his body would simply go into a stasis-like status and would just wait until he could breathe again, and then he would come back to life. Basically, he is the shit, and his healing factor basically has no limit. As Sabertooth once said to someone else trying to kill Wolverine (it's been a while since a read that comic, I can't even remember what comic it was, so this may not be an exact quote) "Killing Wolverine isn't something that can be done in a day. It is something that you must dedicate your entire life to."
Also, if he can regenerate vital organs like livers, kidneys, hearts, etc, what is so hard to believe about him being able to regrow an arm? Also, I can't believe I forgot to mention the Muramasa blade. It could finish Wolverine off, but I am not sure yet. True, he did "kill" Sabertooth with it, but let us not forget how often Marvel "kills" people off, and then has them come back in some crazy, confusing way (although, IMO, if I had to bet, I would say Sabertooth is indeed finished for good, but however, people will clone him, and Wolverine will fight and kill the clones, but Creed himself will not come back alive). Also, I know I'm forgetting something else, but I can't remember it now.
Originally posted by TruthOfWolvie
Also, if he can regenerate vital organs like livers, kidneys, hearts, etc, what is so hard to believe about him being able to regrow an arm? Also, I can't believe I forgot to mention the Muramasa blade. It could finish Wolverine off, but I am not sure yet. True, he did "kill" Sabertooth with it, but let us not forget how often Marvel "kills" people off, and then has them come back in some crazy, confusing way (although, IMO, if I had to bet, I would say Sabertooth is indeed finished for good, but however, people will clone him, and Wolverine will fight and kill the clones, but Creed himself will not come back alive). Also, I know I'm forgetting something else, but I can't remember it now.
I will indeed be suprised if Creed doesn`t show up in Wolverine goes to Hell. Omega Red too.
"Nobody stays dead except uncle Ben"
The Muramasa blade will kill anyone with a healing factor, that much is true, but the damage is isolated to the contact area. Removing the tissue surrounding the point of contact, would totally nullify the effects of the blade. He might be dead right now, but if someone took Sabretooth's head and neck to a meat slicer and then stitched him back up, he'd pop back up and be on his way...
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Muramasa blade will kill anyone with a healing factor, that much is true, but the damage is isolated to the contact area. Removing the tissue surrounding the point of contact, would totally nullify the effects of the blade. He might be dead right now, but if someone took Sabretooth's head and neck to a meat slicer and then stitched him back up, he'd pop back up and be on his way...
Both Skaar and wolverine healed from it also, which makes me wonder if you were killed i na way that wasn't decapitation would u come back to life after awi le?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Muramasa blade will kill anyone with a healing factor, that much is true, but the damage is isolated to the contact area. Removing the tissue surrounding the point of contact, would totally nullify the effects of the blade. He might be dead right now, but if someone took Sabretooth's head and neck to a meat slicer and then stitched him back up, he'd pop back up and be on his way...
So there's on panel evidence of people getting killed by the blade, then coming back to life when the piece of tissue that was cut was removed??
I'd need to see some serious proof to back up the claim, when Wolverine himself said the blade was the only thing that could kill him for good, meaning he's not coming back.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I dunno... but it took many-many issues for Wolvie to heal completely. Skaar should have bled to death.
Well Skaar has Banner where Wolverine didn't, and Banner can do anything. I'm sure he kept him alive for the couple days.
Banner > magic sword
but seriously i have a fealing 90 percent of people it will be used on that aren't fodder or the villian at the end of an arc will live. just because they dont want to kill everyone off
The blade will actually kill him, the problem is how are they going to get the blade to slice his adamantium spine, remember each individaul bone is covered with thick adamantium, the irregular shape of the spine makes it difficult for the blade to get pass the nervous system.
as long as his central nervous system is all connected to his brain, it is still pretty hard to kill him. that bade isn't cutting through an adamantium spine. the only reason sabatooth is dead is the lack of adamantium.
I kinda want to know......where is Wolverine's current level of regeneration at, really? It seems to vary a lot.
Also, does his HF play into hs durability? If so, how much? because sometimes it seems that they present his HF as the reason that on occasion he is displayed as virtually unable to be incapacitated, or KOed, but this theory also seem to not apply at times. Would those simply be "low showings"
Originally posted by namorsubby
I kinda want to know......where is Wolverine's current level of regeneration at, really? It seems to vary a lot.Also, does his HF play into hs durability? If so, how much? because sometimes it seems that they present his HF as the reason that on occasion he is displayed as virtually unable to be incapacitated, or KOed, but this theory also seem to not apply at times. Would those simply be "low showings"
His current level is pretty good....in Uncanny or Astonishing,(the one with Bastion) he/Laura, and Ariel were in a car that got hit with a missile. He and 23 got up a couple seconds after the explosion and all they were missing was hair and patches of skin.
But it really does vary depending on the book I think.
And yeah, his HF lets him power through stuff at times.