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Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0WNice, Thanks
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Originally posted by Soljer
Define "powers," I would argue that Daredevil has powers, as does Cassie.Regardless, I've heard of many people being called street level before, that had powers. Logan included. Spiderman included. I always thought street level was a gauge of a persons power kind of like:
Street Level
Global Level
Cosmic LevelOr something along those lines. Meaning some of the non-omnipotent mutants (Wolverine and his ilk) and superheros like spiderman may be street level, while someone like, Professor X would be global level. And the surfer is cosmic.
But I suppose I am wrong. It's not like anyone ever put down rigid definitions for these things, is it?
street level really describes a person's strength level and powerset .
for example Wolverine would be in the extreme level of street level, bordering on the enhanced level .
according to Marvel Inc. it goes something like this.
street level .. (below - peak human 850 lbs)
enhanced human .... (900 - 1200 lbs)
low superhuman .... (1500 - 4 tons)
mid superhuman .... ( 5 - 20 tons)
high superhuman .... ( 25 - 55 tons)
peak superhuman .... ( 60 - 100 + tons)
and according to marvel database this is not an exact gauge, just a baseline guide to go by.
example ...The Thing has been seen to carry hundreds of tons of stone at one time, the Hulk held up a mountain, Hercules has literally carried the weight of the world on his shoulders. and draged the entire island of Manhatten back to it's rightful place.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0WYet Wolverine beat Mr. X again after he made that statement. It happened during the Bloodsprt tornament in Madripoor I think. After Wolverine made that statement he also held out against Cassandra Nova's Telepathy in the body of Professor X.
Wolverine went into berserk rage and said it was a one trick pony and wouldn't work again...Mister X will beat him.
Now that Wolverine knows X's trick there is no way X can win.
X shouldn't even be able to win with the trick seeing as how Wolverine is way too fast an strong for X.
Originally posted by SoleranWolverine was taken down because Deadpool relied on a super power. He used the knowledge that he would survive Wolverine's attack to beat Wolverine, not fighting skill.
he would have died then, he did have a healing factor still. Not to mention using your strengths against an opponents weakness's is skill, Wolverine was taken down because of using that.
Wolverine's healing power was operating at about 5% of it's normal output. Against Deadpool that is like having no healing power. His Healing Factor had no ability to keep him in the fight or heal wounds, only to keep him from dying after the fight.
The person's point was that Deadpool is as skilled as Wolverine. The other guy's point and mine as well is that Deadpool did not use fighting skill to beat Wolverine. He used a healing power to keep him from dying from two slashes and another time to survive a head kick. Wolverine's skill in this fight as it pertains to fighting alone was greater than Deadpool's.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Wolverine made that staement in Bloodsport.
personally.. I think that what he meant was that mr x. couldn't figure out what logan was trying to do in his head before he attacked... the next they should fight, if logan starts reaching into those painful memories again, x would know what he was going for and might have a contingency plan.. I don't know exactly what considering there's not much x could do to wolverine.. but....
Just his staff and his suit and his sword & 'nades. All of which he normally carries.
I should list all the things his staff has. It's loaded with:
High-end super-heated plasma blasts (Cyclops level)
Nerve Gas.
Electricity.
Tranq-darts that took down elephants.
Hooks.
Sticky webbing.
Nets.
I've been reading Wolverine comics non-stop for two months now, I'm a big fan again! But, he'd still lose.
I've changed my opinion on the SM/Wolvie fight, I'd think he'd beat Spidey 7/10.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
He has highly powerd tranquilizers that would put him out.Then again this chick put Wolverine down with a shot to the chest pretty easy.
He got K.O'd by machine gun fire two issues later. Then, got k.o'd by a bullet to the neck. Then got k.o'd by getting his neck broken.
Yes, you can break his neck. Sabretooth did it.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0WYet it was funny when he said it because the "one trick pony" worked.....more than once. The statement also doesn't mean X can do anything about it, only that X would know that Wolverine had a way around his telepathy and would need to try something different.
Wolverine made that staement in Bloodsport.
I liked Tieri's run on Wolverine, but Tieri did write Wolverine like movie Wolverine. Just a human guy with claws and a healing power. He didn't write Wolverine as a really good fighter, or as a character with enhanced speed, strength, agility, and reflexes. The only time he showed Wolverine with any knid of speed happened long after the X insident against mobsters in New York.
Even if X could know all of Wolverine's moves ahead of time it wouldn't matter because X is human and can't do anything to a man with strength and speed that are many times greater than a human. X shouldn't be able to do anything with his human offensive capabilities that can hurt Wolverine. Wolverine is not hurt after being punched by Colossus. What could Mr. X hope to do? Not much.
Originally posted by long pig
Just his staff and his suit and his sword & 'nades. All of which he normally carries.I should list all the things his staff has. It's loaded with:
High-end super-heated plasma blasts (Cyclops level)
Nerve Gas.
Electricity.
Tranq-darts that took down elephants.
Hooks.
Sticky webbing.
Nets.I've been reading Wolverine comics non-stop for two months now, I'm a big fan again! But, he'd still lose.
I've changed my opinion on the SM/Wolvie fight, I'd think he'd beat Spidey 7/10.
Gas: ineffective most of the time.
Energy staff: dodge, or just take it like he did in X-Men vs. Titans.
Electricity: Wolverine has been hit by lightning no problem
Tranks: Taken doses for 10 elephants no problem.
hooks: ????? what are hooks?
Webbing: Wolverine's fought Spider-Man / dodge.
Nets: cut.
Bah, Wolverine did fine against Deathstroke in the Titans/X-Men crossover no matter what anyone says. Bottom line is Slade can't keep him down. Wolverine can put Slade down.
Originally posted by long pigif he's leaving those superboy stunning grenades at home he's screwed...
Just his staff and his suit and his sword & 'nades. All of which he normally carries.
Originally posted by long pig
I should list all the things his staff has. It's loaded with:High-end super-heated plasma blasts (Cyclops level)
Nerve Gas.
Electricity.
Tranq-darts that took down elephants.
Hooks.
Sticky webbing.
Nets.
I've never seen his staff display blasts anywhere NEAR cyk level and wolverine's literally walked through or stood up to full cyk blasts 3 times now...
wolverine was barely put down by tranq darts that were loaded enough to put down a t-rex.. everything else wolverine can deal with fine as well...
Originally posted by long pigwhat cause you to pick up these books? what changed your opinion?
I've been reading Wolverine comics non-stop for two months now, I'm a big fan again! But, he'd still lose.I've changed my opinion on the SM/Wolvie fight, I'd think he'd beat Spidey 7/10.
Originally posted by long pig
Wolverine got shot in the head with a 9mm in issue #3 of his latest series which k.o'd him.He got K.O'd by machine gun fire two issues later. Then, got k.o'd by a bullet to the neck. Then got k.o'd by getting his neck broken.
Yes, you can break his neck. Sabretooth did it.
which ish was this?
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0WFunny how 2 bullets put him down, yet the last time Way wrote Wolverine it was in Venom where he survived a nuke.
He has highly powerd tranquilizers that would put him out.Then again this chick put Wolverine down with a shot to the chest pretty easy.
I love healing factor inaccuracies, especially after Marvel has officially stated that it has become more powerful. Way to go continuity editor. Oh wait, they dont use them anymore.