Rots Sids vs. Treya

Started by overlord16 pages

Originally posted by Count Kent
newb = newbie.
noob = idiot.
noob X= newbie.

'=' - does.
'x=' - does not.

That's a pretty cool math trick you showed me. You're like some awesome internet magician. You're still a n00b though who's trying to impress everybody by screaming he has always known Plageuis was Muun and much more retarded stuff.

Pretty neat huh?

Here's some more:

'<' - less than.
'>' - more than.

Originally posted by Count Kent
Here's some more:

'<' - less than.
'>' - more than.

Kent, no double posting. Kent, no spamming the threads.

On topic: It'll probably end up like an old western 'duel'.

Originally posted by Lord Saboteur
Kent, no double posting. Kent, no spamming the threads.

On topic: It'll probably end up like an old western 'duel'.

Sabogay, stop posting pictures of owls in threads. It's not funny.

Originally posted by Count Kent
Sabogay, stop posting pictures of owls in threads. It's not funny.
Nah, he wasn't actually posting pictures of owls, it was to fool you and make a grand comeback. Oh wait, I am mixing up your pathetic attempt at being funny with mine..
Anyway, he hasn't putten out pictures for a certain time already, pretty dumb to go whine about it now.

Overlord let's get some things clear. Stop copying me. I never try to be funny. You do. You're not. So quit telling me that I am a lesser version of you and Blax and that I am not funny. You look like a fool.

What I was saying earlier was not an attempt at being funny.

Originally posted by Count Kent
Overlord let's get some things clear. Stop copying me. I never try to be funny. You do. You're not. So quit telling me that I am a lesser version of you and Blax and that I am not funny. You look like a fool.

What I was saying earlier was not an attempt at being funny.

You weren't being serious, what was it for then? Also, why can you claim that I do try to be funny while I can't claim you do? Oh, yeah, I am copying you.. You said it first so you have copyright.
Why don't you just talk SW instead of members? Pretty good idea, huh?
You don't have a thing to stand on anyway..

It is possible to not be serious and to also not be trying to be funny at the same time.

Originally posted by overlord
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Haha 😆

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Wait,w ait, wait, Nai...I got nothing from Veitch on the Ancients.

I think you can find the particular interview on the Dark Horse page. Veitch said that Anderson "wasted" some of his characters (especially Ulic Quel-Droma) among them all the Jedi and Sith. Technically Veitch basically created all characters of the TOTJ series with Kun being the only exception. The "Sith War" series (see Anderson's interview on the Dark Horse page) was designed to put up Anderson's character (Kun) against Veitch's creations.


And KJA said in response to my question: "I have no way of measuring who the strongest Sith is. Maybe if LFL did a comic pitting the spirit of Exar Kun against PAlpatine we'd find out!"

And this is questioning Sidious position as the strongest ever, or not ?
And if Veitch questions Kun's superiority above his own creations (at least as it's displayed in the comics) those might rival Sidious too. Really that easy...


And remember, it's a force push from YODA....

And you better remeber that countering force TK is the first thing people learn according to Shatterpoint. In the same novel Mace counters a force push of Kar Vastor and in the ROTS novel he counters Sidious attempt to force push him out of the window...

But this might be the result of Sith lacking defensive force abilities since most of them are Jedi techniques. Such things might simply not fit the Sith philosophy.


and there's still the idea of Sidious's pulling something off before Traya brings her instakill to bear. We've no idea if it can work on Sidious who probably already knows the Force drain, especially as he's been described as a 'black hole, event horizon' in the force

What should Sidious pull off before Traya manages to move her hand or - even worse - don't do any gesture at all ? Sidious isn't exactly the person that instantly attacks opponents as seen in ROTS and ROTJ.
And that he possibly knows the force drain and maybe has something to counter it isn't enough. Even if it only works to a lesser extend on him it would still weaken him which would most likely be enough to give Traya the upper hand.

Originally posted by Count Kent
Haha 😆
Hahahaha!!! You are such a good joke man, yes yes!!
Again: What was the point of the comment wich wasn't serious and also wasn't a joke?

Overlord you're on my ignore list and I can't see what you're typing, but I know that you did post something so please know that I will not read them and let the big boys get back to their debate.

Count Kent, you are on my ignore list. Although I don't know if you're talking to me, I do have to speak to a wall and give attention to someone I ignore. I know it's silly but that's just what I am.

Veitch didn't create Sidious first off, and up until that point, Veitch had created most of them...KJA wrote GAOTS and FOTSE mostly himself.
The difference is, Veitch didn't 'create' Sidious and he's talking about the TOTJ era, not DE. Veitch created the concepts of the ancients, but KJA filled in the blanks. I don't see how this means anything towards Sidious since they're discussing TOTJ and TOTJ alone. It does show KJA might consider the strongest title between Kun and Sidious, but that's it.

While it may be true that countering TK is basic, Yoda's power is far and away above most Jedi, so I dubt most could counter him if they tried.

And Sidious could go for force lightning on traya, which'd be roughly the same thing, or even use the drain on her. And we're considering that Sidious wouldn't have learned of these 'unblockable' techniques from the ancient Sith he was talking to, he'd obviously consider any other Sith Lord a threat to him.

Oh, btw, just a note: Apparently the Jedi did kill darth Bane as in the novelizations, Mace mentions the 'fall of Darth Bane a millenia ago'.

Yoda's power was hardly above Dooku's.


And Sidious could go for force lightning on traya, which'd be roughly the same thing, or even use the drain on her.

And I suppose it's out of the question that Traya could simply block this technique that has been blocked SO MANY times before?

Sidious has never demonstrated the knowledge of the force drain technique since it was lost with Malachor. If he did know it, he did not use it against his most hated enemies. It makes absolutely no sense that he knew the technique.

A technique only blockable by the strongest Jedi masters?
And Sidious only drained the force from...billions of beings on Byss. Sorry, LONG before KOTOR 2 was in development, he knew Force drains

Originally posted by Lightsnake
A technique only blockable by the strongest Jedi masters?
And Sidious only drained the force from...billions of beings on Byss. Sorry, LONG before KOTOR 2 was in development, he knew Force drains

The technique that Traya knew was lost at Malachor. Again I ask, how would the Jedi masters know a defence against an attack that they do not even know about. How would Sidious know such a technique? In order to resist such a technique you would have to be a WOUND IN THE FORCE. It was stated many times on these forums as well as the game.

Once more: You're wrong. Proof the knowledge was lost on Malachor, I don't recall it existing there exclusively.

And Palpatine is a 'black hole in the force', fancy that...once mroe: Force drain preceeds Kotor 2 by ABOUT TEN YEARS.

And it's only 4000 years, plenty of time to develop something new. And Palpatine had the help and direct assistance of the souls of the Ancients