Your argument: Sidious knew everything about the dark side and would therefor be able to resist or block any dark side technique.
That is your argument.
Firstly, the nature of Traya's technique suggests that it cannot be blocked. It is also described as unblockable by Traya who spent years studying sith techniques on Malachor V. But no, Sidious who couldn't even resist a force push from Yoda would be able to resist it when the one person who knows the technique inside out believed it to be unblockable. The same technique that instakilled three great jedi masters.
And secondly, that statement regarding Sidious knowing everything there is to know about the darkside is clear hyperbole.
Originally posted by Count Kent
Your argument: Sidious knew everything about the dark side and would therefor be able to resist or block any dark side technique.That is your argument.
Firstly, the nature of Traya's technique suggests that it cannot be blocked. It is also described as unblockable by Traya who spent years studying sith techniques on Malachor V. But no, Sidious who couldn't even resist a force push from Yoda would be able to resist it when the one person who knows the technique inside out believed it to be unblockable. The same technique that instakilled three great jedi masters.And secondly, that statement regarding Sidious knowing everything there is to know about the darkside is clear hyperbole.
2.Keyword 'suggests'.It NEVER says in the ENTIRE game that it cannot be blocked.
3.Last time I checked,Traya also couldn't resist a force push by Nihilus.
ANd what do you think Sidious was doing in his ENTIRE life?He was studying every Sith technique they had!And it even states in the novel(which overrites your overbiased opinion) that he DID know almost ALL of the Sith techniques,where it doesn't state that Traya does.
AND FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME!!THREE JEDI WHO KNEW NOTHING ABOUT SITH TECHNIQUES OR HOW TO BLOCK THEM!!!!!!!
Firstly that is totally flawed but I can't be bothered to tell you why. Anyhow, even if Sidious knew everything about the darkside including Traya's technique, where's the proof that he would have some defence against it when Traya herself, who had been studying sith magic for years and knew the technique inside out believed there to be no defence?
Originally posted by Count Kent
Firstly that is totally flawed but I can't be bothered to tell you why. Anyhow, even if Sidious knew everything about the darkside including Traya's technique, where's the proof that he would have some defence against it when Traya herself, who had been studying sith magic for years and knew the technique inside out believed there to be no defence?
2.She never said nor has it said that she ever believed that it was a technique for which there was no defence,you're lying out of you ass.
3.Where's the proof that says that it will work on A Sith?Where's the proof that says that it will work on the most powerful Sith Lord in history?(Source: New Essential Chronology😛age 84😛alaptine is declared the most poweful Sith Lord in history)Oh,right.There is NONE.
Originally posted by Count KentAgain,where does it state this?It wasn't in the game,I can tell you that.And it never said that she knew the technique inside and out,n00b.Again,you're lying out of your ass.
3. The fact that she believed there to be no defence. She was a sith, and knew the technique inside out, yet she didn't believe there was a defence for it.
Originally posted by DE Luke
First ,we didn't HEAR anything.We only heard the corpses go down,that's it!Second,your's and everyone else' fanboyism of Traya disgusts me.Third,have you yet provided logic indicating that Traya can take down the most powerful Sith Lord in history with her "Zomg!1n5t4 k1l1!!11!" technique?Didn't think so.
Funny how somebody can accuse other people of fanboyism and then waltz in with blatant Sidious fanboyism himself. Very funny.
The indiocy of the people who think Traya can just whip out this technique at will without proof is proof in itself that this forum had been overrun by n00bs.
Of course. Can you please tell me why she shouldn't be able to whip out this technique at will ?
Seriously,she used it on three Jedi Masters who knew NOTHING about Sith techniques or history and now that makes her godlike?!Christ on a bike,thats like me telling you people that hennie stevens is a REAL marijuana smuggler,with absolutely no proof except my word for it!
And not it's getting absolute hilarious. Those Jedi knew nothing about Sith techniques ? That's nice. Especially because two of them did participate in the Great Sith War already (Kavar and Vrook) and all of them survived the Jedi Civil War and 10 years of being hunted by Sith Assassins and the like. But of course they don't know anything about Sith techniques.
Did you think Malachor was the only place the Sith had knowlege on?You're dumber that I thought possible.The Sith always have stored knowledge,therwise their Order wouldn't have lasted to Sidious time!It also states in the ROTS novel that Sidious knew just about ALL Sith techniques.
Yes. They did store knowledge. However. The force power Nihilus was using was descriped to be stored and teached only at Malachor. And because Sidious knew all Sith techniques he's always not using them when they could be useful, right. And the ROTS novel is the personal interpretation of the author when things are not mentioned in the script or the movie. And this is obviously the case for Sidious "knowing all Sith techniques".
And as I remember correctly,Traya was force pushed by Nihilus also.Second,zeph can't finish anything.Why?Because he doesn't have any LOGIC to back his statements up,which reminds me of you.And you have yet to show me that Traya can pull this technique out whenever she pleases!All you and the rest of these idiots keep saying is"Zomg!F34t W4ar5!!11!!Tr4y4 w1l1 b34t l34th3r f4(3 b3(4u5e sh3 k1l13d thr33 J3d1 wh0 kn3w N0TH1NG 4l30ut S1th t3(n1qu35!!111!!"<pure crap.
Great...there is simply no reason to doubt that Traya is able to pull this out whenever she wants. Why would she not be able to do so ? That's like saying Sidious can only use force lightning in the situations we see him using it or Vader isn't able to choke force users. Does that make sense ?
Where's the proof that says that it will work on A Sith?Where's the proof that says that it will work on the most powerful Sith Lord in history?(Source: New Essential Chronology😛age 84😛alaptine is declared the most poweful Sith Lord in history)Oh,right.There is NONE.
Oh my. The author has already admitted that this statement was his personal opinion so don't keep handing it out as if it's carved in stone that Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord ever. Kevin J. Anderson disputed this already, saying Kun might be more powerful and if you include Veitch's statment about his ancient Sith Lords they might also be more powerful than Sidious.
And if the great Sidious (and we're still talking about the ROTS version here which is far from his strongest version - DE Sidious ) can't even counter a force push which is a very basic force technique, why should anybody think he's able to counter a force drain or any kind of instakill attack in the same situation.
You call that "logic" ? Ok. If somebody can't dodge a bullet because he isn't fast enough he must be able to dodge a laser beam ! <- Same sort of "logic" used.
Wait,w ait, wait, Nai...I got nothing from Veitch on the Ancients. And KJA said in response to my question: "I have no way of measuring who the strongest Sith is. Maybe if LFL did a comic pitting the spirit of Exar Kun against PAlpatine we'd find out!"
And remember, it's a force push from YODA....and there's still the idea of Sidious's pulling something off before Traya brings her instakill to bear. We've no idea if it can work on Sidious who probably already knows the Force drain, especially as he's been described as a 'black hole, event horizon' in the force
Originally posted by Lightsnake
And remember, it's a force push from YODA....and there's still the idea of Sidious's pulling something off before Traya brings her instakill to bear.
If you're putting Yoda in cap locks because he was supposedly overpowered in the force, he has shown in the past not to posses that great TK ability. And Traya can do more then her force drain. She could telekenetically wield multiple sabers which would not only be effective in a versus battle, but also suggests she had great force mastery and control.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
e've no idea if it can work on Sidious who probly already knows the Force drain, especially as he's been described as a 'black hole, event horizon' in the force
He 'probly already knows' the force push technique, yet that didn't help him in resisting Yoda's. So unless you can prove that Yoda's TK is far more powerful and effective then Traya's force drain, you have no case.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Funny how somebody can accuse other people of fanboyism and then waltz in with blatant Sidious fanboyism himself. Very funny.Of course. Can you please tell me why she shouldn't be able to whip out this technique at will ?
And not it's getting absolute hilarious. Those Jedi knew nothing about Sith techniques ? That's nice. Especially because two of them did participate in the Great Sith War already (Kavar and Vrook) and all of them survived the Jedi Civil War and 10 years of being hunted by Sith Assassins and the like. But of course they don't know anything about Sith techniques.
Yes. They did store knowledge. However. The force power Nihilus was using was descriped to be stored and teached only at Malachor. And because Sidious knew all Sith techniques he's always not using them when they could be useful, right. And the ROTS novel is the personal interpretation of the author when things are not mentioned in the script or the movie. And this is obviously the case for Sidious "knowing all Sith techniques".
Great...there is simply no reason to doubt that Traya is able to pull this out whenever she wants. Why would she not be able to do so ? That's like saying Sidious can only use force lightning in the situations we see him using it or Vader isn't able to choke force users. Does that make sense ?
Oh my. The author has already admitted that this statement was his personal opinion so don't keep handing it out as if it's carved in stone that Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord ever. Kevin J. Anderson disputed this already, saying Kun might be more powerful and if you include Veitch's statment about his ancient Sith Lords they might also be more powerful than Sidious.
And if the great Sidious (and we're still talking about the ROTS version here which is far from his strongest version - DE Sidious ) can't even counter a force push which is a very basic force technique, why should anybody think he's able to counter a force drain or any kind of instakill attack in the same situation.
You call that "logic" ? Ok. If somebody can't dodge a bullet because he isn't fast enough he must be able to dodge a laser beam ! <- Same sort of "logic" used.
Thank you Nai. I coudn't of put it better myself.
Originally posted by Count KentAre you not a newbie? I know you're a sock but you still act like a noob, so it's not without reason. I'm not the new kid on the block screaming that he always knew that Plagueis was Muun. That's pretty silly, don't you agree?
Did you possibly consider that I might have said that to Luke because he constantly calls people noobs, myself included for no particular reason?