maybe we dont know the exact wording of the prophesy, but
we know that its about "the one who will bring balance to the force",
and we know that it involves immaculate conception, and that he's expected to be potentially the most powerful jedi.
but is their really more to know or did GL pretty much say it all?
honestly i think thats it in a nutshell. not mysterious at all.
Originally posted by PVS
maybe we dont know the exact wording of the prophesy, but
we know that its about "the one who will bring balance to the force",
and we know that it involves immaculate conception, and that he's expected to be potentially the most powerful jedi.but is their really more to know or did GL pretty much say it all?
honestly i think thats it in a nutshell. not mysterious at all.
As I read in ROTS, the chosen one doesn't have to be a Jedi. Perhaps it doesn't mean just killing sith.Perhaps it meant reducing the number of all force users.
Originally posted by Alliance
No, but imo the jedi f-ed thing up a lot too, like during the Mando wars and the Clone Wars. Balance (in general) means both sides are equal, with niether one outcompeting the other.How is it balanced by only having one side in control? Its like a dictatorship, where everythign is happy because everone is forced to have one opinion. This also breeds rebellion, which could be molded to the perspectvie of sith/darksiders, construed to be "unbalancing" from the jedi point of view.
I like the word stable better, but then why did Lucas use "balance"?
Agreed.
Originally posted by Crease
You can. Those with their head stuck up Lucas's @$$ forget what forums are about.
Forums are certainly places where people with egos so monumentually huge that they think they can override GL's declarations about his own work get laughed at, yes.
Sorry, but all of you disagreeing with GL are wrong, for the simple reason that it is GL who sets what is right or not.
Why can people not grasp this simple logic?
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Forums are certainly places where people with egos so monumentually huge that they think they can override GL's declarations about his own work get laughed at, yes.Sorry, but all of you disagreeing with GL are wrong, for the simple reason that it is GL who sets what is right or not.
Why can people not grasp this simple logic?
Its not about ego, its about the right to interpretation. We know how Lucas defines his work, but by presenting it to the public, he opens it for interpretation. This is how all art works, literature, visual, dance, film.
Especially with a plot as epic as SW, covering six films, inconsistancies crop up. I like comparing it to novels, basic themes are presented, but you can go many different ways with them.
Good-Evil dichotomies are usually very unstable, and in the metaphorical SW universe, they don't always hold up either. Lucas has said what he thinks his art means, what he intended to do with the saga. That doesnt mean we can't point out inconsistancies in the Saga and in such concepts as the philosophy of the jedi and not that they contradict, possibly revealing a new message.
For a start, you've really just been stating things that are not true, rather than pointing out inconsistencies.
Secondly, I really don't see any inconsistency at all that does not simply come down to you not liking GL's cosmology.
Sorry, but facts are facts. The Force is the way the Force is in Star Wars, as much as there are four legs on an AT-AT.
If you want to argue that GL's ideas don't bear relation to the real world, then fine, but that seems not really worth worrying about. But within Star Wars itself, his word is law.
Thiks like the sith not being destroyed were my mistake, I was thinking in EU terms, which is not cannon/admissible into these discussions.
The term "balance" doesn't make sense. Any artist can't re-denotate every word he wants. If Lucas would have used the word "harmony" it would have been more sensical.
No apology is neede for factual evidence. AT-ATs ahve four legs. This is a physical concept. The force is an abstract concept. There are multiple interpretations of all abstract concepts that currently come to mind.
There is a connection between SW and the real world. SW is a metaphor. You can take this and stencil it onto the real world. Everything in SW is based on things Lucas took from his life. All art relects upon the real world. Lucas, like all artists, made his art. But is was publically displayed, which opens it to credible analysis.