Originally posted by willRules
So a sniper is firing a bullet at DD. DD has to rely on his senses to pick up the sniper is there, work out how to avoid the gunfire, then actually avoid it, all before the sniper fires, with his human reflexes? I'm not saying he can't do it because he has dodged worse numerous times, but it does seem a bit like a "By the skin of his teeth" moment.
Not at all. DD would know the trigger is about to be pulled before it even is. Hed also know that there was someone perched somewhere and about to fire. Hed also already know which direction the person was aiming, so all he has to do is simply move out of the way. Even when snipers have fired Daredevil sees the bullet as it cuts throughthe air also making it easy for him to dodge. Human reflexes? I personally say its between superhuman(due to senses) and peak human. By the skin of his teeth? Sometimes, but Spidey has also dodged some close ones.
Originally posted by willRules
All the spider-sense does is tell spidey what to do to avoid the danger. Spidey already knows there is a danger if it goes off otherwise it wouldn't go off in the first place, its just a case of him locating the danger.
🤨Many posts ago you said that Spidey doesnt have to locate the danger. Now you say he does? The Spidey sense warns Spidey of the danger and once its located, the sense helps him to dodge it along with his great agility.
Originally posted by willRules
DD may have trained himself enough and utilised his senses so it appears instinctive but its not. He doesn't have superhuman reflexes, speed or agility or a warning sense.
If you were to take away his senses, they DD would just have peak human reflexes due to his fighting background. But because of the senses, hes able to locate and move out of the way of danger before Spidey does. You say thats not superhuman reflexes? If thats not, i dont know what is.
Originally posted by willRules
Oh I agree that in some cases DD my be able to utilise his senses to deduce what his about to happen in the upcoming moments. But that doesn't mean the spider-sense doesn't register it either. It also doesn't make DD's senses better for a one on one fight. It may, it may not. In my opinion it doesn't 🙂
Im not saying Spidey sense wont register the danger/threat. Im just saying that DD registers it faster and more precise at that. I do think it slightly makes his senses better than Spideys on a 1on1 fight because DD knows exactly what areas to hit, where and when the opponent is going to strike, plus where they will end up after completing certain moves whether it be attack or dodge. All due to senses. The spidey sense cant deliver all of that.🙁
Originally posted by willRules
By your definition of hung with then isn't what I deem to be a proper fight. In the past spidey has "Hung" by your definition with Galactus (like in secret wars or one panel in the sins past storyline), but I know that the planet eater would win in a fight.I don't really know if I have any more points to contribute. You are entitled to your opinion and to argue with my points and I respect that 🙂 But I feel as though it keeps coming back to the same points.
The only way I see DD winning this fight is through his senses, he has no other advantage. His fighting skills, acrobatics and strength mean diddly squat against an opponent who outclasses him physically in every way. It seems DD's senses make him a one trick pony in this fight and I'm not even sure if that is as effective in this fight against Spidey's spider-sense. 🙂
DD hanging with Hulk, Namor and Thing are completely different than Spidey hanging with Galactus. Why? Because people like Namor, Hulk and Thing are susceptible to nerve hits. They would feel the effects of some punches thrown by street level type characters depending on the attack.
I agree. Its clear we have different views on the outcome of Spidey vs DD. I respect your opinion as well, but apparently we'll never see eye to eye.
I partly agree that the only way DD would beat Spidey is through the use of his senses. His fighting skills and agility does help out along with the senses though. Its the fighitng skills that allows DD to roll with punches thrown by people with superhuman strength and not get knocked out the majority of the time. Spidey once labled him as "A one man Riot Squad!". DD has been effective with those who outclass him physically, but his skills and senses make up for alot.👆