Re: The Bible vs The Book of Mormon
Originally posted by the Darkone
The Biblevs.
The Book of Mormon
My personal beliefs that The book of Mormon is false and doesn't hold a candle to "The Bible" at all, historically"The Bible" is one and only anything else is "false".
Re: The Bible vs The Book of Mormon
Originally posted by the Darkone
The Bible
vs.
The Book of MormonMy personal beliefs that The book of Mormon is false and doesn't hold a candle to "The Bible" at all, historically"The Bible" is one and only anything else is "false".
Nice belief...lol. The argument is rather stupid as no Mormon believes that the Bible is not historically accurate. The Book of Mormon does not attack in any way the Bible, and the Bible does not attack the Book of Mormon, so a versus argument exists only in your head.
It is typically mainstream Christianity, including the Catholics, that are unsure as to the historical accuracy of much of the Old Testament. Books that are often questioned are Job, Judges, and portions of Genesis. Perhaps others, but I do not know which they may be.
As far as historical accuracy goes, here are some things to consider.
1) The Bible was written by Jews and Christians who have people who claim descent. This therefore makes historical confirmation of locations and character existence rather more simple than it is for the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon, if it were believed to be true, has nothing but the descendants of people that claimed that the teachings recorded in it were false.
2) Book of Mormon scholars that believe the book to be true are a rather small population compared to the scholars that believe the Bible to be true. If a person believes something to be false, it is easy to discredit, they are not looking for anything to support it, only things that do not. Scholars that believe in it and have looked for support of the Book of Mormon believe they have found some things as such. Scholars that do not believe in it claim they have not. From either side you can claim one thing or another, I have a difficult time believing that anyone considering the Book of Mormon does not have bias for one side or the other.
3) Location and Character existence do not necessarily mean that it is true. It is without a doubt true that the Prophet Muhammad existed, and that the cities described in the Holy Qur'an actually exist. If this is enough to prove true the Bible then it follows that this book is also true. Presence of such evidence does not equate to historical accuracy as far as whether the spiritual portion is correct
4) It seems that the Jews do not believe that the New Testament is entirely historically accurate. There is doubt in their minds as to many occurrences in the New Testament.
5) Many locations in the Bible have not been located. They have merely been speculated as to the location.
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
the demons are fallen angels, so naturally they would still look like angels, wouldn't it be ideal for satan to send a deamon disguised as an angel of light to trick his "rivals", christians, into being decieved into satan's way of thinking.or watch southpark, the one making fun of mormons.
exactly.
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
yeah, so maybe check your sources before you say the bible isn't true, find a TRUE source Contradicting the bible, and is Factual (not non-christians planting evidence and making stuff up so that they are correct)
I assume this was directed at me, and so will respond.
yeah, so maybe check your sources before you say the Book of Mormon isn't true, find a TRUE source Contradicting the Book of Mormon, and is Factual (not non-mormons planting evidence and making stuff up so that they are correct)
I am unsure of whether there have ever been anyone other than non-mormons to have attacked the Book of Mormon.
Also, I believe the Bible to be true.
Originally posted by the Darkone
[QUOTE=6673046]Originally posted by Regret
[B]5) Many locations in the Bible have not been located. They have merely been speculated as to the location.
Wrong, They have been located. [/B][/QUOTE]
I did not say all, so I have to assume you are stating that all of them have been located.
Not all, the sea that Moses parted is not positively identified.
The location of the mountain the Ark rested on has not been identified.
The location of the tomb that Jesus Christ was placed in has not been identified to a high degree of certainty.
There are more, but I am not going to research and list them all.
Originally posted by Regretwell the fact that he said jesus lived in america, when the bible says he went into heaven, and that jews are american indians...
I assume this was directed at me, and so will respond.yeah, so maybe check your sources before you say the Book of Mormon isn't true, find a TRUE source Contradicting the Book of Mormon, and is Factual (not non-mormons planting evidence and making stuff up so that they are correct)
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
well the fact that he said Jesus lived in america, when the bible says he went into heaven, and that jews are american indians...
It does not say he lived in America. It says he descended from heaven following his ascension in the Bible, and we believe that this visit supports the statement found in John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
The Book of Mormon does not claim that the Jews are American Indians. Although it does state that the American Indians are descended from the Israelites. It also states that God altered the genetic makeup of their ancestors in some way to change their skin color.
You use the term "he said Jesus..." are you attacking the Book of Mormon or something else?
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
well the fact that he said jesus lived in america, when the bible says he went into heaven, and that jews are american indians...
Jesus being born in Jerusalem and it's a history fact that he was born in Nazareth. And smith talking to God, yeah right the fool was talking to the devil and a demon.
Originally posted by Regret
It does not say he lived in America. It says he descended from heaven following his ascension in the Bible, and we believe that this visit supports the statement found in John 10:16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
The Book of Mormon does not claim that the Jews are American Indians. Although it does state that the American Indians are descended from the Israelites. It also states that God altered the genetic makeup of their ancestors in some way to change their skin color.
You use the term "he said Jesus..." are you attacking the Book of Mormon or something else?
Native Americans are not descended from Israelites, what B's is that. The skin tone or Malina is what determines what area of the world you are from.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Book of mormons has no history, as where the Bible has over 2,000 years of history. BOM has none, all those cities supposley existed they don't and you know which ones I'm talking about in South America.
LOL
Don't start sputtering just because you don't have any facts. There isn't evidence that the cities of the Book of Mormon never existed.
You keep claiming things for the Bible. The Bible, at most, has 1500 years of history, Moses period, sometime around 1450 BC began the written record and Shortly after Christ it ends.
I have never claimed the Bible wasn't true.
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
the demons are fallen angels, so naturally they would still look like angels, wouldn't it be ideal for satan to send a deamon disguised as an angel of light to trick his "rivals", christians, into being decieved into satan's way of thinking.or watch southpark, the one making fun of mormons.
Before you go around saying the Book of Mormon isn't true, show me some evidence the bible is true. From unbiased sites please, opusdei.com doesn't exactly do it for me.