The Bible vs The Book of Mormon

Started by rickyduck10 pages

Originally posted by Eis
I just love it when a Christian mocks another religion... So ironic.

Before you go around saying the Book of Mormon isn't true, show me some evidence the bible is true. From unbiased sites please, opusdei.com doesn't exactly do it for me.

If you read the bible code, it shows factors of the bible that are extremely true, its stated the deaths of JFk and JFK Jr as assinations, that guy in africa or zimbabwe, cant remember, and across his name (coded) it sais 'Assasin to be assasinated' , the moon landing, hitler, etc.

Originally posted by rickyduck
If you read the bible code, it shows factors of the bible that are extremely true, its stated the deaths of JFk and JFK Jr as assinations, that guy in africa or zimbabwe, cant remember, and across his name (coded) it sais 'Assasin to be assasinated' , the moon landing, hitler, etc.

Oh really? Show me evidence then.

Originally posted by Eis
I just love it when a Christian mocks another religion... So ironic.

Before you go around saying the Book of Mormon isn't true, show me some evidence the bible is true. From unbiased sites please, opusdei.com doesn't exactly do it for me.

Tbie Bible is historically correct as where Book of Mormons is not. Smith talking to god and Jesus, yeah right he was talking alright but it wasn't god or Jesus he was talking too, he was talking to fallen angels that are now demons. BOM have no historically evidence, well know scholars even stated that.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Tbie Bible is historically correct as where Book of Mormons is not. Smith talking to god and Jesus, yeah right he was talking alright but it wasn't god or Jesus he was talking too, he was talking to fallen angels that are now demons. BOM have no historically evidence, well know scholars even stated that.

The Bible is historically correct? Ok, show me proof.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Tbie Bible is historically correct as where Book of Mormons is not. Smith talking to god and Jesus, yeah right he was talking alright but it wasn't god or Jesus he was talking too, he was talking to fallen angels that are now demons. BOM have no historically evidence, well know scholars even stated that.

I am sorry, but I don't believe that Biblical archeology is unbiased. I cannot believe anyone would waste their time in something that they did not believe in. Also, scholars that went to theology schools to become some form of Christian Minister or Christian teacher are not scholars, they are Theologians that are only credible by religions that subscribe to that school's particular type of religion or by someone wanting to learn about that school's brand of Christianity. I doubt you could show me one scholar that supports all historical "evidence" for the Bible that does not believe in the Bible. I am not attacking the Bible, but it doesn't have as firm a support as Christians want to believe. You live in a Christian world, find some support from a Muslim, Buddhist, Taoist, or some other non-Christian doctor for your evidence. I would doubt that such support is easily found. You haven't stated evidence thus far for your views, only uneducated persecutory comments with no non-Christian support and reference.

Now, just to reclarify, because someone will make a comment about it, I believe that the Bible is true.

Re: The Bible vs The Book of Mormon

Originally posted by the Darkone
The Bible

vs.

The Book of Mormon

My personal beliefs that The book of Mormon is false and doesn't hold a candle to "The Bible" at all, historically"The Bible" is one and only anything else is "false".

you mine as well say the bible vs. tacos or vs. baseball with that argument. If it is already your view that anything other than the bible is "false" than theres no discussion. You didnt even make any reasons for why everything else is false, which is the problem with discussion religion with someone who is religious, they have no real reasons and are not open to anything new. Religious discussion really needs to be left to those who arnt relgious as odd as that sounds, or to the few who may be, and are actually open-minded about it.

Thats not true. I know relgious people who can back up why they are religous. THe point is good though, if you want to make claims, its nice if you bakc them up.

But if you don't i'll argue with you anyway...just for the sake of it. 😄

Originally posted by Alliance
Thats not true. I know relgious people who can back up why they are religous.

thats why at the end i said there are the few religious people who are capable of discussing the topic open-mindly, its just not common

Sorry I missed that. I agree. 😄

The Book Of Mormon VS Christianity?

Not a good idea,...because Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and many other groups call themselves Christians. The word Christian has become generically used. Let's stick with the title of this thread (as is) and let truth prevail on it's own. 😄

What truth?

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
The Book Of Mormon VS Christianity?

Not a good idea,...because Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and many other groups call themselves Christians. The word Christian has become generically used. Let's stick with the title of this thread (as is) and let truth prevail on it's own. 😄

The title is a misnomer. The Book of Mormon claims to support the Bible. No verse in the Bible categorically says the Book of Mormon could not be God's word as well. The idea that the Bible does is based in interpretation, and even mainstream Christians do not always agree on interpretation of the Bible unless it is to attack someone else.

Often people that attack the Book of Mormon refer to Revelations 22:18 to attack the Book of Mormon on the basis that it is something being added to the Bible. The problem with the use of this verse is Deuteronomy 4:2 which states the same thing prior to the majority of the Bible being "added" to the previously existing Bible.

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Revelations 22:18
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book

The Bible vs The Book of Mormon

"Versus"?

How about: The Bible and The Book of Mormon: Differences and Similarities

Versus. Yeah, that sure reflects the proper spirit. Sheesh.

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
The Book Of Mormon VS Christianity?

Not a good idea,...because Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and many other groups call themselves Christians. The word Christian has become generically used. Let's stick with the title of this thread (as is) and let truth prevail on it's own. 😄

People who believe in Christ are Christians. Kind of makes sense, doesn't it?

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
People who believe in Christ are Christians. Kind of makes sense, doesn't it?

Arachnoid...you just opened my eyes surprise

Originally posted by Eis
The Bible is historically correct? Ok, show me proof.

The proof is there if you read it and check it's history, it's historically correct the cities, the people, animals, money, wars, rivers etc. Where in world history that the book of Mormons is correct, none, everything in the book of Mormons is not correct. And if you are willing to put your soul and salvation on the line, then go right ahead, but remember in revelations is states do not add to the bible, if anyone dose you are erase from the book of life.

Thats not proof, thats rhetoric. YOu could provide some examples....

I'd like to expand/clarify on Eis's request (with his kind permission): Prove that your bible is not historical fiction.

Originally posted by the Darkone
And if you are willing to put your soul and salvation on the line, then go right ahead, but remember in revelations is states do not add to the bible, if anyone dose you are erase from the book of life.

I guess I pre-responded to this and someone didn't pay attention.

Originally posted by Regret
Often people that attack the Book of Mormon refer to Revelations 22:18 to attack the Book of Mormon on the basis that it is something being added to the Bible. The problem with the use of this verse is Deuteronomy 4:2 which states the same thing prior to the majority of the Bible being "added" to the previously existing Bible.

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Revelations 22:18
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book

Everything following Moses writings was added to the Bible. Read more scripture your statement also makes the Bible following Moses' writings false on the same grounds.

Originally posted by the Darkone
The proof is there if you read it and check it's history, it's historically correct the cities, the people, animals, money, wars, rivers etc. Where in world history that the book of Mormons is correct, none, everything in the book of Mormons is not correct. And if you are willing to put your soul and salvation on the line, then go right ahead, but remember in revelations is states do not add to the bible, if anyone dose you are erase from the book of life.

first off i'd just like to state, it's Books of Mormon, not book of mormons, book is the plural not mormon. Next, there is historical proof of the Book of Mormon, all the ancienct burial grounds, the cities. Instead of giving the native americans a chance to tell us their cities names, we killed them and forced them to move then renamed them ourselves, just because somebody came in killed lots of people and made the rest leave then change the name doesn't mean its not true. I mean lets say I assemble a large army and take over all the area's that are spoken of in the Bible and change their names, a few years down the road when everybody has forgotten what they used to be named, is that going to make the Bible untrue? by your logic i'd have to say yes. but by my logic, it's the word of God, it will always be true, every word in it that has been translated CORRECTLY. I also believe that the book of mormon is the word of God given to the people on the american continent, we know that they were there, and there was no way for them to keep in contact with the prophets on the otherside of the world, so God called prophets in the American continents and they recorded of their lives, and even if it isn't true, it still teaches great truths and gives excellent advice on how to live and by abiding by the principals in the book, you will get to know God better. so if you haven't read it, read it before you say it isn't true then I'd also like to point out some scriptures from the bible that talk about another book of scripture which I believe to be the book of mormon.

Ezek. 37: 16
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:

Ezek. 37: 19
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

somebody has already stated that the people who wrote the book of mormon were decendants Israelites who held the stick of ephraim and were commanded to write a book, just as the Jews who are named after Judah were commanded to write a book so in other words Stick of Judah=Bible stick of Joseph=Book of Mormon