Originally posted by the Darkone
That's the only book you should read is the Bible and noting else, the Bible is un-corrputable it has never been change, the Old testament& Testament that you have in the NKJV is the same as in the Dead Sea Scrolls it has been prove by scholars and non-Christian scholars. The Book of Mormon has been change over 3,000 time or more during Joseph Smith life and after his death that's why you can't find a old Book of mormon as where you can find a Bible 70 years ago or even later and it's still the same as it is today.
Uncorruptable? Never been changed? That's a joke, right?
What about that little meeting the Catholic Church had about what should and should not be in the Bible to begin with? What about the different translations in which some reformers left out sections? Give me a break...that's the whole reason King James wanted a definitive Bible.
The Bible is the one of the most 'doctored' religious texts to date. Ever gone to a bookstore and seen the many different Bible texts that exist? Ever read the different translations?
Originally posted by tlbauerle
Uncorruptable? Never been changed? That's a joke, right?What about that little meeting the Catholic Church had about what should and should not be in the Bible to begin with? What about the different translations in which some reformers left out sections? Give me a break...that's the whole reason King James wanted a definitive Bible.
The Bible is the one of the most 'doctored' religious texts to date. Ever gone to a bookstore and seen the many different Bible texts that exist? Ever read the different translations?
different tranlations trys too make it easier for the reader to un derstand, Catholic Church was right about the other books that where not part of the canon witch would have contradict the bible. where the BOM has been change over 3,000 times, the BOM alone contradicts the Bible.
Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you know he is a false prophet.
Maybe, because he 'translated' what he called ' the book of Abraham'. Egyptologist have recently translated this Egyptian papyrus and found out that the ‘book of Abraham’ is really just a Egyptian burial instructions manuscript. I don’t claim he was a false prophet but things like that make me wonder. Why would he lie if he was sent from god?
Originally posted by BicnarokLol, we add nothing to the Bible. We reverence the Bible. Show some evidence that the Bible text is to be the only scripture to exist.
Christianity is a religion created from power hungry priests who selected the books which to add to the bible. Luckily the important message got through.Mormonism is a cult which follows a false prophet. Joseph smith.
Don't quote Revelations 22 when you do either, as Deuteronomy 4:2 states the same thing nearly a millenia before the majority of the Old Testament and all of the New Testament was "added" to the Bible.
Show some evidence suggesting that God ever stopped the use of Prophets to man. If Christ ended the prophets, you must also discount Paul, as he was a prophet by any use of the term.
Show some evidence that religion according to the Bible was ever valid when there was no prophet. The absence of a prophet has always meant that the people were in sin and that God showed his disapproval of their actions by being silent, at least according to the Bible.
The Book of Mormon is another testament of God's dealing with men, it does not add to or replace the Bible, it sustains it.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTERRofl, they translated "some" of the papyrus in the group of papyri. They have not translated all of the papyrus, nor are all of the papyrus present, many have been lost, this is acknowledged by the scholars dealing with the materials.
Maybe, because he 'translated' what he called ' the book of Abraham'. Egyptologist have recently translated this Egyptian papyrus and found out that the ‘book of Abraham’ is really just a Egyptian burial instructions manuscript. I don’t claim he was a false prophet but things like that make me wonder. Why would he lie if he was sent from god?
Originally posted by Regret
Rofl, they translated "some" of the papyrus in the group of papyri. They have not translated all of the papyrus, nor are all of the papyrus present, many have been lost, this is acknowledged by the scholars dealing with the materials.
http://www.irr.org/MIT/Books/BHOH/bhohintr.html
If ONE word (about god and the truth of god) Joseph smith said was false . Then he is not a prophet. Why would god ,who speaks through prophets, lie? The source sited above is from a secular, scientific stand point. Joseph Smith lied, and was proved a liar. That's fact.....
Originally posted by 2D_MASTERRofl, have you read Jeremiah? Have you read the Bible? God can take back anything he has pronounced, based on their [man's] obedience and faithfulness.
http://www.irr.org/MIT/Books/BHOH/bhohintr.htmlIf ONE word (about god and the truth of god) Joseph smith said was false . Then he is not a prophet. Why would god ,who speaks through prophets, lie? The source sited above is from a secular, scientific stand point. Joseph Smith lied, and was proved a liar. That's fact.....
Apologetic response to attacks on the Book of Abraham
Originally posted by 2D_MASTERSorry, but IRR is a biased reference. If you wanted an unbiased reference on any religion, I'd laugh, no such thing exists.
Nice Reference , that's not biased AT ALL. 'ROLF'.
http://www.irr.org/about-us.htmlThe Institute for Religious Research is a non-denominational, non-profit Christian foundation devoted to the study of religious claims in light of history and the Bible.
We desire to promote  in a thoughtful and gracious manner  the exclusive claims of Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, as revealed in the Bible. Statement of FaithWe believe faith in Jesus Christ requires us to go beyond reason but not against it.