Added to that Superman survived a sun eater exploding. Which had the energy of countless suns. He survived a blast from Imperiex who even the sentient spirit of the DC universe feared. He's been hit by the Astro Force. The Astro force once overcame a Universe destroying energy wave.
Superman is much harder to destroy using energy attacks than a solar system.
that's great and all but ON PANEL also:
durability
supes has been ko'ed by gas explosion...
speed
supes has been shot by green arrow and been stuffed by batman mid speedblitz...
strength and fighting ability
supes has been straigh up man handled by batman in a one on one confrontation and has been beaten up by physical force by doomsday even though supes has "more" powers, he's also failed to ko batman with a single punch, a class quintillion against a normal human...
these were taken from jinzin...
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
that's great and all but ON PANEL also:durability
supes has been ko'ed by gas explosion...
speed
supes has been shot by green arrow and been stuffed by batman mid speedblitz...
strength and fighting ability
supes has been straigh up man handled by batman in a one on one confrontation and has been beaten up by physical force by doomsday even though supes has "more" powers, he's also failed to ko batman with a single punch, a class quintillion against a normal human...
these were taken from jinzin...
Thank god thosr AREN'T in continuity, or John Byrne related
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
that's great and all but ON PANEL also:durability
supes has been ko'ed by gas explosion...
speed
supes has been shot by green arrow and been stuffed by batman mid speedblitz...
strength and fighting ability
supes has been straigh up man handled by batman in a one on one confrontation and has been beaten up by physical force by doomsday even though supes has "more" powers, he's also failed to ko batman with a single punch, a class quintillion against a normal human...
these were taken from jinzin...
Superman vs Batman was somthing you can't relly use, as Superman put mental blocks on himself so he won't kill someone by accident. Yes Imagine an being capable of moving planets giving you a friendly handshake, try it with an butterfly without harming it 😉. Those mental blocks are powerful but once Superman realizes he doesn't have to hold back he uses more of his strength. AFAIK he never fought without his mental blocks, even against the Imperiex Probes, each of whome could defeat all the DBZ fighters together, he just lessened it but not completly.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman vs Batman was somthing you can't relly use, as Superman put mental blocks on himself so he won't kill someone by accident. Yes Imagine an being capable of moving planets giving you a friendly handshake, try it with an butterfly without harming it 😉.
are you seriously trying to tell me that no one besides doomsday has manhandled superman before? 😕
did he also put mental blocks on himself when he fought diana, captain marvel, bizarro, manchester black, lex luthor yadi yadi yah...
seriously... 🙄
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
are you seriously trying to tell me that no one besides doomsday has manhandled superman before? 😕did he also put mental blocks on himself when he fought diana, captain marvel, bizarro, manchester black, lex luthor yadi yadi yah...
seriously... 🙄
As much as i dislike this idea, it is canon 😉.
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
are you seriously trying to tell me that no one besides doomsday has manhandled superman before? 😕did he also put mental blocks on himself when he fought diana, captain marvel, bizarro, manchester black, lex luthor yadi yadi yah...
seriously... 🙄
speaking of manchester black, if supes is pissed and goku so much as makes eye contact with supes, insant lobotomy
Originally posted by superkronick92
speaking of manchester black, if supes is pissed and goku so much as makes eye contact with supes, insant lobotomy
why didnt supes make eye contact with doomsday then...
or any of the foes he has fought...ever...
FACT of the matter, superman has been owned by people even way below his power class...
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
the gas explosion was byrne supes i think...
Yes, a far less weaker version that happened 12 years ago; it knocked him off his feat for after being badly beaten by DD for hours, and it didn't stop him (he wasn't KOed, Maxima was), he continued to pursue DD and concluded the battle in the middle of Metropolis. Current Superman won't even budge from that.
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
why didnt supes make eye contact with doomsday then...or any of the foes he has fought...ever...
FACT of the matter, superman has been owned by people even way below his power class...
Like who? DD is on level of Superman, that was the only creature Supes ever went all out. Everyone else he holds back from killing them, just like he did against DD at the beginning of DOS, he didn't go all out until he had no other choice.
And Superman would easily lobotimize Goku if wanted too. He doesn't do it often against any of his opponents because it's not his style. He's a hero.
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
starting with batman...supes holding back, please...
pwned is pwned...
Please show some scans of Supes getting owned by Batman without the use of K-nite and Supes holding back from killing him? Can you do that?
Atleast Superman doesn't get owned by every huge villian he comes across like Goku does. Goku needed help in all of his battles; Vegeta, Cell, Freeza, and Buu. None of them was beaten just by Goku.
Superman wins, he's faster, stronger, more durable, smarter, has way better stamina, and can breath in space. The DBZ/GT support fail to bring a valid arguement.
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
starting with batman...supes holding back, please...
pwned is pwned...
and supes is not lobotimizing goku...
tenshin-han 6-7/10...
You know, comparing low feats is ok, but a Superman KOed by an explosion or beaten by Batman is the same as an Son-Goku who lost against Mutenroshi in the first tournament. Well if he loooses against someone who has an power level of 300 he would surely loose against someone like Spiderman.... The logic is flawed, you take Goku at his best SSJ 4 and Superman at his best, this is the way it works, else i pick the Goku who couldn't even hold his own against Radiz 😉. Heroes grow, their power increases.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
You know, comparing low feats is ok, but a Superman KOed by an explosion or beaten by Batman is the same as an Son-Goku who lost against Mutenroshi in the first tournament. Well if he loooses against someone who has an power level of 300 he would surely loose against someone like Spiderman.... The logic is flawed, you take Goku at his best SSJ 4 and Superman at his best, this is the way it works, else i pick the Goku who couldn't even hold his own against Radiz 😉. Heroes grow, their power increases.
the only difference is that clark's powers were his birthright, so his is inherent... 😉
goku's were honed through skill and merciless training, and fighting opponents who are generally stronger than he is...heck he even continued to train when he was dead... 😉
that is why goku undergoes increasing power changes from db to dbgt... 😉
on a side note, saiyans become more powerful in near death experiences... 😉
Originally posted by dvampire
Please show some scans of Supes getting owned by Batman without the use of K-nite and Supes holding back from killing him? Can you do that?
pwned is pwned...
let me quote vin diesel in the fast and the furious...
"a win is a win is a win...it doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning"