Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I love the DBZ sides arguing technique, anytime someone brings up a Superman feat they don't like they say it doesn't count.Still on the plus side I've seen Naruto fans invading DBZ boards. Now that get a taste of they're own medicine.
Yeah, Naruto fanboys are even worse than DBZ fans.
I'm actually registered in a Naruto forum.
Originally posted by SlimYout
Doesn't this argument boil down to a picture vs something animated?Marvel and DC have several characters that are powerful. But no one seems to think so because said characters don't, "shake the planet"?
Yeah, except when you show them something like Drax and Thanos destroying a planet just by fighting on it, they make up some stupid excuse to ignore it or say it doesn't count.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yeah, except when you show them something like Drax and Thanos destroying a planet just by fighting on it, they make up some stupid excuse to ignore it or say it doesn't count.
did that happen because I don't know what your taking about also superman fans do the same with dbz showings and say that every world destroying feat is a chain reaction. also thanos or drax >> superman however i know joe casey would disagree with me
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yeah, except when you show them something like Drax and Thanos destroying a planet just by fighting on it, they make up some stupid excuse to ignore it or say it doesn't count.
Superman has shaken planets before. He did so from orbit in a recent issue.
The thing I've noticed about the DBZ fans is they have no sense of scale. They always claim the Z fighters shatter mountain with their hands and can lift them. When in reality they're talking about small hills and large boulders. They must have never seen a mountain. They're big it takes a day to walk up and down even a small one.
Originally posted by jasofisc
did that happen because I don't know what your taking about also superman fans do the same with dbz showings and say that every world destroying feat is a chain reaction. also thanos or drax >> superman however i know joe casey would disagree with me
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/friezatooweak6.gif
Care to explain how he could shoot the core of the planet and not have it actually explode for 5 minutes without it being a chain reaction?
Compare to something like this:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/draxthanosplanetbust.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/draxthanosplanetbust1.jpg
There's just no comparison.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/friezatooweak6.gifCare to explain how he could shoot the core of the planet and not have it actually explode for 5 minutes without it being a chain reaction?
Compare to something like this:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/draxthanosplanetbust.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/draxthanosplanetbust1.jpgThere's just no comparison.
only happened like that one time several other characters have destroyed planets in several different ways including frezza you are doing exactly what you hate dbz fans for.
thanks for the scan I wasn't aware of that pretty sweet.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Frieza only destroyed one other planet in all of the canon DBZ manga, and it was never shown how he destroyed it in canon. Sorry.
yeah i was going from the animi (I really don't like dbz very much but I seen all the animi episodes) and i was going from where he destroyed planet vegta. still how about other times characters have destroyed planets did it not show that either in the manga because in the cartoon it's not though destroying the core. which is still only one time did any character destroy a core to destroy the planet. before the buu saga bibdy (that little wizard guy) said that it only took so many of a measurement to destroy a planet and goku at SSJ 1 was far far beyond that and climbing (was that cannon) either way it's insane to count goku out of this fight even at just SSJ 1 levels.
I didn't really feel like skimming through a 100 pages,but it's been concluded that at least Majin Buu can beat Superman right?
No. We've a hundred pages of neither side giving ground. Personally I don't think buu can beat Superman. Clark has resisted magical transmutation a number of times and fought people with buu level shape shifting powers.
However I'm not convinced an in character Superman could defeat Buu. There's no way to stop Buu without killing him which Superman won't do. Unless he Phantom zones him throws him in the source wall.
Well we know magic is one of Supes' few weaknesses that doesn't involve kryptonite.
Majin Buu is a creation of PURE (malevolent) magic,and is more or less immortal.You can't really kill Buu per se,it's more like you have to neutralize him to put an end to his existence.Goku had access to the Spirit Bomb,an attack completely made up of good/positive energy.Buu,again,was completely made up of evil/negative energy.
As far as I know,Supes doesn't have access to any kind of attack resembling the Spirit Bomb.That,and Buu's physical composition is made up of some "putty" like substance that allows his body to stretch,expand,shrink,and it virtually absorbs any kind of physical attack that's thrown at him.And then we have Buu self-destructing all over the galaxy and taking a few planets along with him.
I could be wrong,but I'm pretty sure Majin Buu would beat Superman.
BTW,are there any on-panel examples of Superman destroying a planet?
Look in the superman respect thread. He splits one of saturns moons in half during the OWAW story, also travels about 16x speed of light if you do the math. He has helped move the earth and the moon more than once I think. His heat vision burns hotter than the sun and Goku has been burned by lava. He lifts ocean liners and submarines casualy with one hand and has knocked a few people in to orbit.
Originally posted by Micheal_Myers
I dont know if this counts at all because it was in All Access.But Superman got beasted by Venom in All Access.So you are saying that Venom can take on Goku?....I dont think so....
Crossovers don't count. But Venom beat Supes when he was weakened by red solar energy.
Anyways, Superman beats Buu easily.
I dont know if this counts at all because it was in All Access.But Superman got beasted by Venom in All Access.So you are saying that Venom can take on Goku?....I dont think so....
The same story included Bishop who has human level strength overpowering the Martian Manhunter who can bench press continents. I think we'll not count this one. Also Cannonball almost beat Aquaman without the use of his mutant powers. I don't know how DC let it through.
Well we know magic is one of Supes' few weaknesses that doesn't involve kryptonite.Majin Buu is a creation of PURE (malevolent) magic,and is more or less immortal.You can't really kill Buu per se,it's more like you have to neutralize him to put an end to his existence.Goku had access to the Spirit Bomb,an attack completely made up of good/positive energy.Buu,again,was completely made up of evil/negative energy.
Buu is fighting the same person who can repair reality by rubbing his hands together and once beat his own death into submission. He's defeated countless high level magical beings as well.
As far as I know,Supes doesn't have access to any kind of attack resembling the Spirit Bomb.That,and Buu's physical composition is made up of some "putty" like substance that allows his body to stretch,expand,shrink,and it virtually absorbs any kind of physical attack that's thrown at him.And then we have Buu self-destructing all over the galaxy and taking a few planets along with him.
Other attacks have been shown capable of hurting Buu. That's like assuming Cell can only be killed by a Kamehameha. Superman has fought white Martians. They have the same shape changing abilities as Buu are stronger and faster and possess global level telepathy.
Also how does Buu beat Superman?
Originally posted by Magee
Look in the superman respect thread. He splits one of saturns moons in half during the OWAW story, also travels about 16x speed of light if you do the math. He has helped move the earth and the moon more than once I think.
Um,but isn't that what they call 'Pre-Crisis' Supes? Where he can fly faster than the speed of light,juggle planets,time travel,blow out stars with his breath,etc.?
The thread clearly states 'Superman'.Not Pre-Crisis Superman,Superman Prime,or Superman 1Million.Unless specifically stated,whenever there are '_________ vs. Superman' threads,I think it's safe to say they're talking about "regular" Supes.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Buu is fighting the same person who can repair reality by rubbing his hands together and once beat his own death into submission.
^Um yeah,are we talking regular Superman here? Or the other godly powerful versions?
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Other attacks have been shown capable of hurting Buu. That's like assuming Cell can only be killed by a Kamehameha. Superman has fought white Martians. They have the same shape changing abilities as Buu are stronger and faster and possess global level telepathy.
The only way to defeat Cell was to completely vaporize his entire body.If one single cell was left intact,Cell would've completely regenerated and come back even stronger.
Buu cannot be killed the same way.Vegeta took that same approach to kill Buu and sacrificed himself in the process.If anything,Buu's actual presence would be void for a given amount of time after such an attack,but eventually his entire body reforms and comes back as good as new.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Also how does Buu beat Superman?
Well,Doomsday beat Supes to death didn't he? =/ I suppose that's one way,but there's always seem to be some disagreement when comparing strength between DBZ in general and Superman.
Can Superman breathe in space? I suppose Buu can self-destruct and blow up the planet they're fighting on.
Anyway,how does Superman beat Buu?
Originally posted by BerserkGene
Um,but isn't that what they call 'Pre-Crisis' Supes? Where he can fly faster than the speed of light,juggle planets,time travel,blow out stars with his breath,etc.?The thread clearly states 'Superman'.Not Pre-Crisis Superman,Superman Prime,or Superman 1Million.Unless specifically stated,whenever there are '_________ vs. Superman' threads,I think it's safe to say they're talking about "regular" Supes.
^Um yeah,are we talking regular Superman here? Or the other godly powerful versions?
Magee and I were both talking about standard modern day Superman using stories written in the last few years. That's just how powerful Superman is now.
Originally posted by BerserkGene
Superman can survive in space indefinitly and can has crossed galatic diatnces unaided as recently as last year.
Anyway,how does Superman beat Buu?
Reality warping punches
Hotter than the heart of a star heat vision
Throw him into a black hole (Before you ask post crisis Superman has grappled with black holes.)
Lastly lets look on Doomsday and Superman's last one on one fight:
