Originally posted by leonheartmm
again. no counter, no reply, just lil crybabies trying desperately to watch each other's backs. sorry if i dont take this specific post of yours seriously.DO enlighten me one WHAT, it is, you find hard to understand about "faster even than real world flash". fasters means fasters, even, is for comparison, real world flash, stands for flash while he still exists in the physical world, and has not gone beyond light speed in which case he would be in the speed force realm.
UNDERSTAND now. 🙂
Please, God, I hope you aren't suggesting DBZ characters can run faster than the Flash seeing as it took Goku months to run across Snake Way. But, if this is what you're suggesting, I'm speechless at your stupidity....
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43He sounds like a typical DBZ fanboy using outdated evidence and biased views to perpetuate his ignorance. It's the same problems that we have with the others.
Please, God, I hope you aren't suggesting DBZ characters can run faster than the Flash seeing as it took Goku months to run across Snake Way. But, if this is what you're suggesting, I'm speechless at your stupidity....
If you were to go on the offensive and challenge how certain DBZ characters are supposed to acheive things you'd get hyperbole in the form of trash talking from the dbz characters and extrapolation which relies heavily on personal interpritation of the given data.
The DBZ characters have not shown to be on par with the commonly held veiws of the DBZ fans and have nothing to support their claims. Meanwhile they seem to uphold a double standard by requesting proof of feats which they then ignore in favor of their own opinions on the way things should be.
So in the end you get
Hyperbole, extrapolation and opinion versus evidence, logic and reason.
Yet still THIS guy was hassling me in another section of the forum because he doesn't understand the logical fallacy of argumentum ad ignorantiam.
Of course simply reading his posts is a hassle because I don't know what his primary langauge is, so have no idea how to base his potential word meanings off of compared to his native language.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Please, God, I hope you aren't suggesting DBZ characters can run faster than the Flash seeing as it took Goku months to run across Snake Way. But, if this is what you're suggesting, I'm speechless at your stupidity....
for HEAVEN'S SAKE LEARN TO READ! i never suggested that. your an idiot to think so, if youd read, youd see. i was merely elaborating the fact that SUPERMAN has never beaten flash who is at lightspeed in the physical universe. nulling his apparent beyond lightspeed feats{or one piece of evidence presented against it}. superman is on average faster than dragon ball characters. but still not beyond their ability to counter{his perception is also faster but not by THAT miuch}. dragon ball characters like goku however have teleportation which is instantaneous. in which case they are faster than any normal speed{not flash though, he travel trhough time beyond lightspeed}.
Yeah, he has nothing to back up his pitiful claims in this thread & it's already been solved that Superman would knock the living daylights out of any DBZ character anyday of the week. Btw, to make matters worse, the things he says make absolutely no sense & yet he wants us to counter his "facts". Until he learns to type & spell better I'm not listing any feats or posting any pictures.
Originally posted by Creshosk
He sounds like a typical DBZ fanboy using outdated evidence and biased views to perpetuate his ignorance. It's the same problems that we have with the others.If you were to go on the offensive and challenge how certain DBZ characters are supposed to acheive things you'd get hyperbole in the form of trash talking from the dbz characters and extrapolation which relies heavily on personal interpritation of the given data.
The DBZ characters have not shown to be on par with the commonly held veiws of the DBZ fans and have nothing to support their claims. Meanwhile they seem to uphold a double standard by requesting proof of feats which they then ignore in favor of their own opinions on the way things should be.
So in the end you get
Hyperbole, extrapolation and opinion versus evidence, logic and reason.Yet still THIS guy was hassling me in another section of the forum because he doesn't understand the logical fallacy of argumentum ad ignorantiam.
Of course simply reading his posts is a hassle because I don't know what his primary langauge is, so have no idea how to base his potential word meanings off of compared to his native language.
im not a dragon ball z fanboy. i like superman far more than any dragon ball character.
your welcome to ask me{although this is getting repettitive and i believe most people here have no INTENTION of having an argument and accepting replies as opposed to merely disreguarding them} about how dragon ball characters may perform any feat. i can back up what IVE said.
i have not requested proof for anything, i am merely commenting on the instances of PIS{well known by all non supes fanboys} that are being used to support a very biased view of the character here. its not mu oppinion, its DC's oppinion that superman is not galactus and can not take galacy destroying blasts, and can not travel beyond lightspeed.
other then that your posts is merely a jumble of tantrums with no LOGICAL evidence provided against the evidence given. nor any counter evidence of any sort is present.
i wasnt HASSLING you in any other section of the forum. if memory serves i corrected your wrong interpretation of the ontological argument to defend god. you were forgetting that asking for negetive evidence is also a fallacy. furthermore, the ontological argument only holds false if the PREMISE TO BE TESTED has been proven TRUE.{in your case there was not even EVIDENCE of suggestion, of the existance of the premise}
yours was a classical example of trying to prove a premise by the LACK OF NEGETIVE EVIDENCE which is a fallacy.
i have 3 primary languages so to speak{and knowing the others wont HELP you in finding potential word meaning since im fluent in all 3 and dont have to TRANSLATE in my mind/follow grammatic structure. i can THINK in all 3} english, urdu, and well another u havent even heard of.
the argument again, just LOOK BACK and see how many people have TRIED to answer the points vs how many people are simply content with their attempts at mockery/dissing.. youll figure out who the fanboys are{it isnt me}
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Yeah, he has nothing to back up his pitiful claims in this thread & it's already been solved that Superman would knock the living daylights out of any DBZ character anyday of the week. Btw, to make matters worse, the things he says make absolutely no sense & yet he wants us to counter his "facts". Until he learns to type & spell better I'm not listing any feats or posting any pictures.
LMFAO. dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stop TYPING! seriously. if its been solved in your fanboyish wet dreams that superman can beat dragon ball z characters then be HAPPY for yourself. 😄
it doesnt make it any more real than mother goose. your retardation is apparent from your continuously rude/scandalising statement which are backed up with absolutely ZERO facts. you havent attempted to counter ANY points presented and still continue to disreguard further posts ON TOPIC.
i KNOW you can BLURT trash. but really im asking you, what ELSE your good for{certainly not reasoning and/or debating}.
hiding it with a plea for better typing is simply an excuse for you, to not admit the lack of BRAINS, that has plagued you since birth.
Really? Are you done? Because it's really apparent to everyone else that you're immature & I'm smarter but whatever helps you sleep at night. Also, it seems that you don't even know the definition of "fanboy" as I've stated along with a lot of other people that I enjoy DBZ more than Superman but hey, if you can't read, that's your problem. Oh, & you're reported for continuous flaming. 😄
Originally posted by leonheartmm
for HEAVEN'S SAKE LEARN TO READ! i never suggested that. your an idiot to think so, if youd read, youd see. i was merely elaborating the fact that SUPERMAN has never beaten flash who is at lightspeed in the physical universe. nulling his apparent beyond lightspeed feats{or one piece of evidence presented against it}. superman is on average faster than dragon ball characters. but still not beyond their ability to counter{his perception is also faster but not by THAT miuch}. dragon ball characters like goku however have teleportation which is instantaneous. in which case they are faster than any normal speed{not flash though, he travel trhough time beyond lightspeed}.
Only four people have the ability to teleport. Not that it matters teleporting only means you can get places quicker than somebody else but that isn't going to help them punch or kick faster or make them stronger. They don't have the physical capacity to even hurt Superman either even if they could keep up with his speed normally.
And just cause you don't like and have some odd reasoning that Superman can't get stronger over time, (even though he has shown to) and Flash can't get faster (because he has) it doesn't mean Flash can't run over light speed nor does it mean Superman can't fly through multiple galaxies in minutes.
Also just because you say it would involve cosmic awareness that he hears things from galaxies away doesn't mean it's PIS because it's referred to as Super Hearing since it is always said to be heard.
*stands up & applaudes*
Thank you Kento. And whatever his name is is really an idiot if he didn't know Superman becomes stronger overtime, he's truly a novice at debating. Superman gains solar energy ever seconds & it fuels him & keeps him going. That's one major thing. Even if DBZ characters could somehow hurt Superman, they'd still be steadily losing energy while he's gaining energy & becoming even stronger. And no, destroying the sun wouldn't work as it'd destroy human life as we know it including Goku or whoever which is something a good guy from DBZ would never do. I never could understand why people would say that.
Well going by what they would do if they fought Superman would hold back majorly and Gokou would try to urge him into fighting and probably wouldn't go Super Saiyan until Superman hit him or was easily able to dodge him because he wouldn't know how powerful Superman is. But through the whole fight Superman would be holding back and making sure Gokou doesn't break his hand punching him and trying to talk him out of doing something so stupid. While Gokou may not destroy the world he'd do pretty much everything else to try and get Superman to fight him though just like he did with Uub but meanwhile Superman wouldn't have anything happening to him and Gokou would be loosing energy. A in-character fight would last as long as Gokou has energy.
Honestly, I don't even think Goku & Superman would fight since Goku can sense evil energy. But, if they did & Goku was able to sense how powerful Superman is, I don't think he'd hold back but in any case Superman could beat him pretty easily. All he'd have to do is speedblitz & all of Goku's bones would be instantly broken.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
im not a dragon ball z fanboy. i like superman far more than any dragon ball character.your welcome to ask me{although this is getting repettitive and i believe most people here have no INTENTION of having an argument and accepting replies as opposed to merely disreguarding them} about how dragon ball characters may perform any feat. i can back up what IVE said.
i have not requested proof for anything, i am merely commenting on the instances of PIS{well known by all non supes fanboys} that are being used to support a very biased view of the character here. its not mu oppinion, its DC's oppinion that superman is not galactus and can not take galacy destroying blasts, and can not travel beyond lightspeed.
other then that your posts is merely a jumble of tantrums with no LOGICAL evidence provided against the evidence given. nor any counter evidence of any sort is present.
i wasnt HASSLING you in any other section of the forum. if memory serves i corrected your wrong interpretation of the ontological argument to defend god. you were forgetting that asking for negetive evidence is also a fallacy. furthermore, the ontological argument only holds false if the PREMISE TO BE TESTED has been proven TRUE.{in your case there was not even EVIDENCE of suggestion, of the existance of the premise}
yours was a classical example of trying to prove a premise by the LACK OF NEGETIVE EVIDENCE which is a fallacy.
i have 3 primary languages so to speak{and knowing the others wont HELP you in finding potential word meaning since im fluent in all 3 and dont have to TRANSLATE in my mind/follow grammatic structure. i can THINK in all 3} english, urdu, and well another u havent even heard of.
the argument again, just LOOK BACK and see how many people have TRIED to answer the points vs how many people are simply content with their attempts at mockery/dissing.. youll figure out who the fanboys are{it isnt me}
"most posters who are not convinced by your explanations find them......well.... "lacking". is it really so hard to conceptualise that in this instance it might be your individual explanation that has the problem and not the wrest of the posters who oppose it?"
Originally posted by Creshosk
"most posters who are not convinced by your explanations find them......well.... "lacking". is it really so hard to conceptualise that in this instance it might be your individual explanation that has the problem and not the wrest of the posters who oppose it?"
but OFCOURSE I CAN 😄 . on the other hand youll forgive me for holding back on my "understanding" self in a thread where EVERY poster is supporting superman and every "goku supporter" has left unconvinved and tired of restating evidence. furthermore, this was obviously a flame thread opened to prove that "SUPERMAN CAN DEFEAT EVERY DRAGON BALL GT CHARACTER ...........................combined". that being ridiculous in itself, this thread is filled with supes fans who rarely{if ever} "try" to even counter points and mostly rely{often initiate} flaming on any opposer.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
but OFCOURSE I CAN 😄 . on the other hand youll forgive me for holding back on my "understanding" self in a thread where EVERY poster is supporting superman and every "goku supporter" has left unconvinved and tired of restating evidence. furthermore, this was obviously a flame thread opened to prove that "SUPERMAN CAN DEFEAT EVERY DRAGON BALL GT CHARACTER ...........................combined". that being ridiculous in itself, this thread is filled with supes fans who rarely{if ever} "try" to even counter points and mostly rely{often initiate} flaming on any opposer.
"most posters who are not convinced by your explanations find them......well.... "lacking". is it really so hard to conceptualise that in this instance it might be your individual explanation that has the problem and not the wrest of the posters who oppose it?"
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Really? Are you done? Because it's really apparent to everyone else that you're immature & I'm smarter but whatever helps you sleep at night. Also, it seems that you don't even know the definition of "fanboy" as I've stated along with a lot of other people that I enjoy DBZ more than Superman but hey, if you can't read, that's your problem. Oh, & you're reported for continuous flaming. 😄
my GOD, your delusional. go back a few pages and re read the start of this entire flurry. youll ssee quite simply that YOU started the rudenss. you are also the one with the fouler mouth. and mine were merely replies to your vile statements.
the mods read that stuff if u didnt know, and if any1 is gonna get banned, its you.
{also dont think that your "cheering" for kento like a damsell in distress is lot on me. youve still produced no counter points and are hiding behind others.}
Originally posted by Creshosk
"most posters who are not convinced by your explanations find them......well.... "lacking". is it really so hard to conceptualise that in this instance it might be your individual explanation that has the problem and not the wrest of the posters who oppose it?"
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there you go with the obsessive compulsive thing again.
{just out of curiosity ultimatehulk, but what is a........ mental brain capacitis?}
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43I pretty much figured that. Especially since I've caught him telling Christians what Christian's believe when he himself is Muslim.
Guys an idiot Creshosk so it's no use trying to convince someone to believe in something if they have something wrong with their mental brain capacities.
Originally posted by leonheartmmThe better question is what the hell is this:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there you go with the obsessive compulsive thing again.{just out of curiosity ultimatehulk, but what is a........ mental brain capacitis?}
Originally posted by leonheartmm
lmao. smiley's can not hide idiocincricy and stupid intentions, {that IS what you were hoping on wasnt it. since the CONTENT of your message is lacking in all areas where brain and logic is required}thank you for elaborating your mental state 😄
Fluent in English my scrawny foot.