Originally posted by Kento
Only four people have the ability to teleport. Not that it matters teleporting only means you can get places quicker than somebody else but that isn't going to help them punch or kick faster or make them stronger. They don't have the physical capacity to even hurt Superman either even if they could keep up with his speed normally.And just cause you don't like and have some odd reasoning that Superman can't get stronger over time, (even though he has shown to) and Flash can't get faster (because he has) it doesn't mean Flash can't run over light speed nor does it mean Superman can't fly through multiple galaxies in minutes.
Also just because you say it would involve cosmic awareness that he hears things from galaxies away doesn't mean it's PIS because it's referred to as Super Hearing since it is always said to be heard.
yes im talking about goku/gohan. teleprtation helps in keeping up with fast speed blitzers who can run away, evading, and generally confusing and yes, appering at the best most ill protected place to hit. also, it is instantaneuos so superman can not sense it.
they do have the physical capacity to hurt superman if they can sasually KICK away force blasts and physically ram and destroy mountains.
i never said superman cant get stronger OVER TIME, he has post crisis, from simply punching the earth out of orbit, to destroying moons, to atomising planets now. its jsut that those feats are stillvery inconcistant with faster than light speed travel{flash has gotten faster, but still, in the physical realm, his max speed is the speed f light} . absorbing multple galaxy destroying megido warhead{and this wasnt recent at all}. among other things.
i never said his SENSE was PIS, i said calling it "hearing" is PIS. its v-torq /telepathy related. he HEARS it but it is not sound his ears pick up. THAT is what im saying.
it is also not probable that he can ABSORB goku's energy which is mystical. superman has his absorbing limits too{he cant simply absorb doomsday or darkside} and he cant absorb magic. furthermore, he has to form contact with goku to absorb it. and goku can also retain/manipulate his energy.
the only way supes even has a chance is with v-torquism.
Originally posted by leonheartmmWhy should we believe what you say?
your analytical skills are elaborated by the fact that in all your time on the relgion forum. you werent even able to figure out that i am an agnostic/atheist who strongly believes islam is even more evil than christianity.lol, cheers .
I mean you lied about being fluent in English... If you were fluent you'd stop using words incorrectly.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
yes im talking about goku/gohan. teleprtation helps in keeping up with fast speed blitzers who can run away, evading, and generally confusing and yes, appering at the best most ill protected place to hit. also, it is instantaneuos so superman can not sense it.they do have the physical capacity to hurt superman if they can sasually KICK away force blasts and physically ram and destroy mountains.
i never said superman cant get stronger OVER TIME, he has post crisis, from simply punching the earth out of orbit, to destroying moons, to atomising planets now. its jsut that those feats are stillvery inconcistant with faster than light speed travel{flash has gotten faster, but still, in the physical realm, his max speed is the speed f light} . absorbing multple galaxy destroying megido warhead{and this wasnt recent at all}. among other things.
i never said his SENSE was PIS, i said calling it "hearing" is PIS. its v-torq /telepathy related. he HEARS it but it is not sound his ears pick up. THAT is what im saying.
it is also not probable that he can ABSORB goku's energy which is mystical. superman has his absorbing limits too{he cant simply absorb doomsday or darkside} and he cant absorb magic. furthermore, he has to form contact with goku to absorb it. and goku can also retain/manipulate his energy.
the only way supes even has a chance is with v-torquism.
Gohan can't teleport. Only four people can and two of them are villains, one is a god and the other is Gokou...besides the whole planet of beings that taught Gokou. Also Superman would be able to hear their heartbeat whereever they appeared at in plenty of time to move so no they have no chance at hitting him.
When did they have destroy a mountain with a punch? They destroy mountains and such with ki blasts. And the ki blasts they usually casually kick away are weak ki balls. When is the last time somebody smacked away a major blast casually after Trunks did it to Freeza in DBZ? Not counting the anime because Vegetto does it against Super Buu but that was anime only and in the manga he goes straight to SSJ and fights he doesn't fool around at normal levels.
To bad comics isn't the real realm and it's well comics. It's not a hard concept to get though. One's paper with stuff that never happens the other is real life.
Calling it super hearing isn't plot induced stupidity........
Gokou isn't manipulating energy....Since when can he do this? Also didn't say Superman could absorb his energy. And it's not magical so it's not going to bypass his vulnerability. Superman would easily be able to take it. He wouldn't even need to take it as he could dodge it and KO Gokou easily.
All of the DBZ characters can teleport but only Goku can use Instant Transmission which is the same as teleporting but he locks on to someone's energy.
Hell, I don't even think DBZ characters would be able to defeat the Hulk as he is too strong, too big, & much too unpredictable for any DBZ character to take on, especially since almost all of them are really arrogant. And since the Saiyans would be the main ones fighting & aren't cowards, they wouldn't take to the sky & fly off....not that the Hulk wouldn't be able to catch them anyway.
No the only teleporting is IT and whatever Kibito does. Cell, Buu, and Gokou used IT and needed to lock onto energy. Kibito didn't need to and his move was superior. But nobody else could teleport besides Kaioshin when Kaioshin and Kibito fuse with the earrings.
I wouldn't say unpredictable but Hulk would be to strong yes. Don't know about to big as Broli, USSJ Cell, USSJ Trunks, and Garlic Jr.'s final form were huge. But none of them have the level of durability or healing that Hulk also has combined with his strength.
What? When the fighters are disappearing & appearing in other places, they are teleporting, that ability is held by all of the Z Fighters & villains. The only thing everyone doesn't possess is the ability to use Instant Transmission. I don't know where you got that from but all of the Z Fighters can teleport.
As for the Hulk, I doubt that any of them have as much durability as the Hulk except for Broly who has taken head on Kamehameha's & has survived being in molten lava. That's actually pretty impressive.
Um, Instant Transmission is teleportation. It works by sensing someone's ki and then teleporting there. The only characters in all of DBZ who have that ability are Goku, King Kai, the Yardrath aliens, and Super Perfect Cell.
Kid Buu, Kibito, and Supreme Kai have a different type of teleportation where they can teleport anywhere without locking onto a ki signature first. Bibidi and Babidi also had a teleportation spell.
No one else in DBZ can teleport. They can just move quickly so that people's eyes have trouble tracking them.
Basically what Endless Mike said. But I thought Buu gained IT not regular teleportation? At least it was made more specific it was in the anime anyways as Gokou and Vegeta powered up to get him to come.
Also Broli survived the lava with a shield. Why else would he appear with a shield on if he didn't need it?
Originally posted by Kento
Basically what Endless Mike said. But I thought Buu gained IT not regular teleportation? At least it was made more specific it was in the anime anyways as Gokou and Vegeta powered up to get him to come.Also Broli survived the lava with a shield. Why else would he appear with a shield on if he didn't need it?
Broly still had scratches & scars on his body & it was a while before he came up from the lava. I'm sure that even if it was only a little period of time he was in the lava without a shield.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43I'm not gonna get into this debate full of bullshit flame but you do know that was early in the series and he's much faster now right?
Please, God, I hope you aren't suggesting DBZ characters can run faster than the Flash seeing as it took Goku months to run across Snake Way. But, if this is what you're suggesting, I'm speechless at your stupidity....