Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Right, because it's not lying when you hold a statement Superman made 10 years ago above all of the feats he has since, or when you say that a feat is Pre - Crisis when it took place in 1991 and the Crisis was in 1986, or when you claim a planet was really a small rock despite no evidence of such a thing, or when you say Drax would die if he got near the sun despite the fact that he flew right through the sun with Surfer and they were both fine, or when you say that Odin can't even destroy a planet despite the fact that he's destroyed galaxies, ignited suns, toppled planets like anthills, and shook the multiverse (confirmed by Doctor Strange, Silver Surfer, Spider-Man, Jean Gray, the Enchanters, Thor, and tons of Asgardians). And then to cover your own ass you claim the fight was taking place only on Asgard when it was clearly affecting things on Earth and in the rest of the 616 universe, and he even stated that he left Asgard and travelled around the entire universe. And then you claim that Mongul is slow when super speed is listed on his official profile as one of his powers, and you claim that the Flash needs several minutes to reach lightspeed due to one instance when he was weakened and injured, ignoring many of the counterexamples to the contrary when he was not weakened, and then when he outraced the alien you say it was only a race in a city, but in fact it was across the entire universe, and then you say that two people destroying a planet and its moons merely as a side effect of their fight is not impressive, but one person destroying a planet by directly attacking the planet, despite the fact that it took a long time for the planet to actually explode, is impressive, and then you say that Flash and Zoom fighting around the world dozens of times in under a second is not actually fighting, but you say that Goku using IT to appear and grab Picollo and Tien and save them from Cell and then retreat is fighting, despite the fact that he didn't throw a single punch or attack in any way, and then you say that non - canon filler episodes and any hyperboles made by DBZ characters are 100% canon, but any statements or even actual events in comics (like Surtur destroying galaxies, which was actually shown and confirmed by multiple characters) doesn't count, and then you say that no attack can destroy a planet unless it is specifically stated it can destroy a planet, but then you turn around and say that every random DBZ attack can destroy a planet.

There's so much more I'm barely scratching the surface here.

Sickest. Burn. EVER.

I mean, come on, how much more does it take for you to know that you can't debate. All of this evidence to prove him wrong yet he still insists no one has countered his posts & "evidence" stating something when it's just a bunch of mess put into one long ass paragraph. Nevermind the fact that he has no evidence that Superman is physically weaker or slower than Goku.

He can't save his ass from this post, Mike, he simply can't. Again, good one man (no sarcasm intended).

Originally posted by Kento
When he met Cell that wasn't a fight..That was getting Piccolo and Tien away from there. Vegetto never used it. And when does he use it against Kid Buu?

Goku showed that he used instantaneous movement to dodge Cells attack and even used it in short distances. Goku used it against Kid buu when he was SSJ 3! Vegettp DID use Shunkan Idou against Buu to dodge the Super Ghost Kamehameha!

Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Sickest. Burn. EVER.

I mean, come on, how much more does it take for you to know that you can't debate. All of this evidence to prove him wrong yet he still insists no one has countered his posts & "evidence" stating something when it's just a bunch of mess put into one long ass paragraph. Nevermind the fact that he has no evidence that Superman is physically weaker or slower than Goku.

He can't save his ass from this post, Mike, he simply can't. Again, good one man (no sarcasm intended).

You don't know anything about Endless Mike. That post of his is filled with lies and fabrication. That is how he is and that is how he always will be.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Goku showed that he used instantaneous movement to dodge Cells attack and even used it in short distances. Goku used it against Kid buu when he was SSJ 3! Vegettp DID use Shunkan Idou against Buu to dodge the Super Ghost Kamehameha!

He wasn't fighting Cell. Also he doesn't use it against Kid Buu. Vegetto sure maybe I just assumed that was him moving quicky as he was just toying with Buu and that the Ghosts were going towards him. But it could have been IT also.

Still IT isn't going to help him at all. It doesn't make him faster in speed. It makes him able to move from point a to point b quickly but that isn't going to help him hit anybody.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Right, because it's not lying when you hold a statement Superman made 10 years ago above all of the feats he has since, or when you say that a feat is Pre - Crisis when it took place in 1991 and the Crisis was in 1986, or when you claim a planet was really a small rock despite no evidence of such a thing, or when you say Drax would die if he got near the sun despite the fact that he flew right through the sun with Surfer and they were both fine, or when you say that Odin can't even destroy a planet despite the fact that he's destroyed galaxies, ignited suns, toppled planets like anthills, and shook the multiverse (confirmed by Doctor Strange, Silver Surfer, Spider-Man, Jean Gray, the Enchanters, Thor, and tons of Asgardians). And then to cover your own ass you claim the fight was taking place only on Asgard when it was clearly affecting things on Earth and in the rest of the 616 universe, and he even stated that he left Asgard and travelled around the entire universe. And then you claim that Mongul is slow when super speed is listed on his official profile as one of his powers, and you claim that the Flash needs several minutes to reach lightspeed due to one instance when he was weakened and injured, ignoring many of the counterexamples to the contrary when he was not weakened, and then when he outraced the alien you say it was only a race in a city, but in fact it was across the entire universe, and then you say that two people destroying a planet and its moons merely as a side effect of their fight is not impressive, but one person destroying a planet by directly attacking the planet, despite the fact that it took a long time for the planet to actually explode, is impressive, and then you say that Flash and Zoom fighting around the world dozens of times in under a second is not actually fighting, but you say that Goku using IT to appear and grab Picollo and Tien and save them from Cell and then retreat is fighting, despite the fact that he didn't throw a single punch or attack in any way, and then you say that non - canon filler episodes and any hyperboles made by DBZ characters are 100% canon, but any statements or even actual events in comics (like Surtur destroying galaxies, which was actually shown and confirmed by multiple characters) doesn't count, and then you say that no attack can destroy a planet unless it is specifically stated it can destroy a planet, but then you turn around and say that every random DBZ attack can destroy a planet.

There's so much more I'm barely scratching the surface here.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=244885

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=247212&page=2

Endless LIES got pwned! I am calling him on his lies and everyone at NF knows this!

I can get more LIES even here about DS, Galactus, the list goes on.

Originally posted by Kento
He wasn't fighting Cell. Also he doesn't use it against Kid Buu. Vegetto sure maybe I just assumed that was him moving quicky as he was just toying with Buu and that the Ghosts were going towards him. But it could have been IT also.

[B]Still IT isn't going to help him at all. It doesn't make him faster in speed. It makes him able to move from point a to point b quickly but that isn't going to help him hit anybody . [/B]

Super Saiya-jin 3 Goku used it against Kid Buu.

Your last statement is ridiculous, it is speed he has shown to use it in battle as speed. 🙄

Originally posted by Phenomenol
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=244885

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=247212&page=2

Endless LIES got pwned! I am calling him on his lies and everyone at NF knows this!

I can get more LIES even here about DS, Galactus, the list goes on.

Looks like you're trying to use your own arguments as evidence...

But, no, you're the liar here, not him.

And if everyone put you on ignore it'd solve alot of problem around here.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Is that why you were banned?

Looks like you're trying to use your own arguments as evidence...

But, no, you're the liar here, not him.

And if everyone put you on ignore it'd solve alot of problem around here.

No you are just a bias individual. I posted FACTS and he used Bull
@#$ calculations that don't exist.

Please don't fail as much as him.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Super Saiya-jin 3 Goku used it against Kid Buu.

Your last statement is ridiculous, it is speed he has shown to use it in battle as speed. 🙄

When? Show me when? I just looked through the manga that's why I said Vegetto did. I didn't see Gokou using it against Buu.

🙄 And no it's not speed. He's never shown the ability to punch quicker with it, or blast quicker, or fight faster in general with it. All it has show to do it get far away from attacks to counter or save somebody or to surprise somebody to release a blast so they couldn't dodge it.

Originally posted by Kento
When? Show me when? I just looked through the manga that's why I said Vegetto did. I didn't see Gokou using it against Buu.

🙄 And no it's not speed. He's never shown the ability to punch quicker with it, or blast quicker, or fight faster in general with it. All it has show to do it get far away from attacks to counter or save somebody or to surprise somebody to release a blast so they couldn't dodge it.

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It is even shown in the Anime!

Goku blasted with it against cell he attacked with it against Kid Buu. 🙄

Novbody could fail as hard as you phenomenol.

You'll note he's not banned there while you?

Phenomenol
Banned

He surprised Cell so he could launch the attack after he had charged it all up without hurting his friends.. He used it to dodge Kid Buu's attack and then hit Buu who he was able to hit before. When has he ever used it to hit somebody faster than him? He uses it to dodge stuff he normally dodges anyways also.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Novbody could fail as hard as you phenomenol.

You'll note he's not banned there while you?

Phenomenol
Banned

I was banned much later for only three days on a different subject.

So I suggest you put your bias away and relax. 🙄

Originally posted by Phenomenol
I was banned much later for only three days on a different subject.

So I suggest you put your bias away and relax. 🙄

And you have the nerve to call other people liars?

Originally posted by Kento
He surprised Cell so he could launch the attack after he had charged it all up without hurting his friends.. He used it to dodge Kid Buu's attack and then hit Buu who he was able to hit before. When has he ever used it to hit somebody faster than him? He uses it to dodge stuff he normally dodges anyways also.

Buu was faster than him and So was Cell! Vegetto used it as well. I just showed you it is used in combat and he attacks with it as well.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Only three days? That's why you're presently banned?

And you have the nerve to call other people liars?

I am NOT banned forever I am banned for only three days. You don't even know what your talking about. 🙄

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Buu was faster than him and So was Cell! Vegetto used it as well. I just showed you it is used in combat and he attacks with it as well.

So that's why he was able to hit both Cell and Buu and dodge some of their attacks while they were also able to hit and dodge him. And using it in combat with somebody you can already hit isn't impressive. Vegetto was faster than Super Buu and was just toying with him so that is also not very impressive.

Originally posted by Kento
So that's why he was able to hit both Cell and Buu and dodge some of their attacks while they were also able to hit and dodge him. And using it in combat with somebody you can already hit isn't impressive. Vegetto was faster than Super Buu and was just toying with him so that is also not very impressive.

So now you wanna say it's not impressive after you were proven wrong. 🙄 It's a big deal for Superman becuase he can't fight at Goku's speed to save his life.

Again with the lies?

In the manga, Buu never even used the ghost attack against Vegeto. Most of their fight in the anime was filler.

In the manga, Vegeto didn't even fight him in base form like in the anime, he went straight to SSJ form, and started beating him up, then Buu tried to hide in the mist from his body, but Vegeto still pounded him, so then Buu transformed him but he fought him as a candy so Buu transformed him back, and then Vegeto beat him up a bit more, and then Buu absorbed him. Everything else is filler.

As for Goku using the IT in combat, he has only used it once against Cell as part of a trick that required him to spend a lot of time charging up his kamehameha (something Superman would never allow), and a few times against Kid Buu, solely for the purpose of dodging his attacks.

Goku is nowhere near Superman's speed. Superman fights at speeds transcending lightspeed, from the earth to the sun and back in under a minute and 54 seconds (Wonder Woman sacrifice arc), inside of a black hole, he can percieve and react to FTL attacks, whereas DBZ characters have no feats that put them at even 1% of lightspeed. If Superman was using anywhere near his full speed Goku wouldn't even be able to percieve him.