Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

Originally posted by dvampire
So Superman wins basically. The DBZ support go by speculation and what they wish the DBZ characters can do, while Supes can and has done the feats.

1. DBZ characters aren't light speed, even Goku at the end wasn't close to that without IT. Supes has shown plenty of times being able to move faster then light, even his brain move at far faster speed then theirs.

2. DBZ characters never survived planet destroying blasts, every time Goku was faced with that, he either deflected it away or die from it (Cell). Supes has survived supernovas, wormholes, black holes, blasts from a GL rings (that are also capable of destroying planets), he's been hit by his own weaknesses like Kryptonite and redsunlight countless of times along with other types of energy blasts and was still fighting; all which are greater then the destruction of a planet. It doesn't take the destruction of the planet to really hurt a DBZ character either, they got badly hurt by physical attacks (not close to Supes in comparison) and moutain or nuking explosions; not planet destroying.

3. They can't breath in space, Supes can. So if the planet is destroyed, he'll still be alive, they won't (except for the androids and aliens).

4. None of them are physically on par with Supes. Supes can push planets (and destroy them with physical force) and even lift moutains even back in his bryne days, ssj2 Goku (at the end of the seires) struggled to push two hills apart and if we use ssj4, he struggled to push a building back in place.

5. Supes have far more stamina. Supes is able to fight for weeks, Goku at ssj3 could barely fight a few minutes. They have to build up allot of energy to fight, they have to be careful in using their energy blasts also, which takes away alot of stamina (they can't continously use energy blasts) Supes doesn't have to worry about that.

6. Supes attacks are fast and deadly towards them if he's bloodlusted. He can lobotimize them, just stand over them melting them with Heat Vision, he could use Ice Breath then use the previous methods, Supes could suck all the energy or air out of any of them (Superman's lungs are very strong, he was able to suck all types of energy and chemical gases, he even absorbed the Meggadon War head which can destroy half a galaxy) or use T-vo.

All that said, Supes can win the match easily if he goes all out.

That's all it take for Supes to win people!😆

Originally posted by dvampire
That's all it take for Supes to win people!😆

blind and arrogant fanboyism without care or consideration for counterpoints is what it takes for supes to win?

oh yeah, I forget the DBZ characters kick the shit out of him in a fair fight.. so yeah, I guess that IS what it takes for supes to win this thing.. yawn

Originally posted by jinzin
nine times while using less than a 3rd of his real power.. and having enough time to take a nap while he was doing as he later tells piccolo... well within supe's capacity... ESPECIALLY since it was 36 times.. 😕

It wasn't even stated how many times Gotenks went around the planet. All we know is he went around alot of times and rested in the between the 25 minutes it took Piccolo to find him. And then we have S. Buu who after absorbing Gotenks and Gohan, took awhile to fly towards Goku and Vegeta when they was about to fuse, so it again none of them still isn't close to light speed. it's just wishful thinking! 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
blind and arrogant fanboyism without care or consideration for counterpoints is what it takes for supes to win?

oh yeah, I forget the DBZ characters kick the shit out of him in a fair fight.. so yeah, I guess that IS what it takes for supes to win this thing.. yawn

So Superman wins basically. The DBZ support go by speculation and what they wish the DBZ characters can do, while Supes can and has done the feats.

1. DBZ characters aren't light speed, even Goku at the end wasn't close to that without IT. Supes has shown plenty of times being able to move faster then light, even his brain move at far faster speed then theirs.

2. DBZ characters never survived planet destroying blasts, every time Goku was faced with that, he either deflected it away or die from it (Cell). Supes has survived supernovas, wormholes, black holes, blasts from a GL rings (that are also capable of destroying planets), he's been hit by his own weaknesses like Kryptonite and redsunlight countless of times along with other types of energy blasts and was still fighting; all which are greater then the destruction of a planet. It doesn't take the destruction of the planet to really hurt a DBZ character either, they got badly hurt by physical attacks (not close to Supes in comparison) and moutain or nuking explosions; not planet destroying.

3. They can't breath in space, Supes can. So if the planet is destroyed, he'll still be alive, they won't (except for the androids and aliens).

4. None of them are physically on par with Supes. Supes can push planets (and destroy them with physical force) and even lift moutains even back in his bryne days, ssj2 Goku (at the end of the seires) struggled to push two hills apart and if we use ssj4, he struggled to push a building back in place.

5. Supes have far more stamina. Supes is able to fight for weeks, Goku at ssj3 could barely fight a few minutes. They have to build up allot of energy to fight, they have to be careful in using their energy blasts also, which takes away alot of stamina (they can't continously use energy blasts) Supes doesn't have to worry about that.

6. Supes attacks are fast and deadly towards them if he's bloodlusted. He can lobotimize them, just stand over them melting them with Heat Vision, he could use Ice Breath then use the previous methods, Supes could suck all the energy or air out of any of them (Superman's lungs are very strong, he was able to suck all types of energy and chemical gases, he even absorbed the Meggadon War head which can destroy half a galaxy) or use T-vo.

All that said, Supes can win the match easily if he goes all out.

The only fanboy here is you! 😆

Originally posted by jinzin
they move slow on earth since when? 😕

Do you even watch DBZ? Energy beams are slower than bullets when fired on a planet. For some reason (plothole probably, energy beams gather great speed when in space. If you want to disprove what I just said, name ONE time where it was stated/shown that energy beams move at light speed.

Originally posted by jinzin
first off.. he was going faster than you give credit for.. he was going so fast he lapped his streak before it disspeared behind him like a jet stream.. the rotating earth argument is contradicted by the fact that gotenks' transformation has a fairly short time limit for what amount of time would have passed if the spinning earth were valid AND contradicted by the fact that DBZ fighters' energy refuse evaporates almost immidiately after the character takes off.. gotenks kept lapping his.. speaking of lapping you have no idea how many times he lapped over the same streak before going off on another.. but he lapped the world 36 times in under 8 seconds and had time for a nap while he was doing it.. that's what was stated and that's what happened.

Assumptions. That is neither stated nor shown. If he went around the planet 36 times, then part of it wasn't shown.

The planet is rotating. If he was going anywhere near the speed required to do what you say he did, the planet would remain still.

Originally posted by Ritoshi
It's a show 😐 Go count how long it takes supes to do it..what a second ? Because comic book pages doesn't move for you to count it 😐

More like 1/8 of a second; probably even less than that.

Originally posted by jinzin
they move slow on earth since when? 😕

again.. only the low end PIS counts then.. superman can't dodge a batman punch nevermind a DBZ fighter...

It took Goku forever to catch Bubbles, how is he fast enough to catch Superman?

Originally posted by jinzin
nope it's very fast movement.. watch movie 6 yes he can... and DOES.. otherwise he wouldn't be able to pinpoint exact locations when using it, ht would just end up.. SOMEWHERE.. not necessarily where he was intending to go, you're logic's WACK I SAY! WACK! and uhhh moving superfast and punching is a staple of the DBZ characters... hence the teleportation-lookin fests tat they have.. frieza II and piccolo/ yamcha and saiybaman/ android 17 and piccolo etc etc...

If he could move at the SoL, then what's the point of using the IT on Earth?

Originally posted by jinzin
like it does supes?

doomsday wars.. superman is frantically trying to get a baby to safety... dd takes him out using a damned jetfighter.. supes was going as fast as he could cause time was of the essence.. it wasn't SoL.. therfore supes can't go SoL.. see? it works both ways...

again.. when DBZ characters are slowed down, it's A PLOT HOLE for the SAKE OF THE STORY.. it's amazing how you can't grasp this concept when it applies to DBZ but when it applies to supes it's perfectly acceptable.....

THEN GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THEM BEING STATED/SHOWN GOING AT THE SoL (without IT). It's not that hard of a concept for you, is it? Just an example of them without of a doubt going at SoL. We've repeatedly asked you to do so, but you still can't come up with an example.

dude he's given you like five and like a child you close your eyes and ears when you see them and hum to your self. all you can say is not uh. once again you only use low end feats for dbz and high for supes. Well I guess acording to that logic supes can beat galactus, highfather, spector, God, budda, living tribunal, um I really don't know who he can't beat if all you use is low end feats for other characters and the PIS high end feats for supes.

Originally posted by jasofisc
dude he's given you like five and like a child you close your eyes and ears when you see them and hum to your self. all you can say is not uh. once again you only use low end feats for dbz and high for supes. Well I guess acording to that logic supes can beat galactus, highfather, spector, God, budda, living tribunal, um I really don't know who he can't beat if all you use is low end feats for other characters and the PIS high end feats for supes.

No one is using low end feats for anyone, it's all fair IMO, which Supes out beats DBZ by far in having better feats. And none of Supes feats are PIS, that's what you wish it could be, since you know the DBZ characters can't match the feats he has. 🙂

nor can he even come close to their feats. and you prove what said about superman fanboys that you don't believe that any of his feats are PIS. and yes if you weren't so blinded by you fanboyism you would see that you and a few other people are only using dbz low end feats.

all I here any more when superman fanboys write down how post crisis can lift planets (unaided or with out being sun dipped) is this http://youtube.com/watch?v=vapWigkG-6I&search=supergirl%20fangirl
except instead of supergirl it's superman that can melt me with his Eyyyyyyyessss.

Originally posted by jasofisc
nor can he even come close to their feats. and you prove what said about superman fanboys that you don't believe that any of his feats are PIS. and yes if you weren't so blinded by you fanboyism you would see that you and a few other people are only using dbz low end feats.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f48/t371890.html

His feats are far greater then their's, if you let go of your fanboyism, you'll see that it's pretty obvious that they won't stand the slightest chance of matching Supes! 🙂

Originally posted by jasofisc
all I here any more when superman fanboys write down how post crisis can lift planets (unaided or with out being sun dipped) is this http://youtube.com/watch?v=vapWigkG-6I&search=supergirl%20fangirl
except instead of supergirl it's superman that can melt me with his Eyyyyyyyessss.

This just shows how immature you really are (Huh...angry fanboys).

what ever dude i really don't even like DBZ very much (I'm still a fan just not a big one). I like superman way more but that doesn't mean I think he can win against buts who can move faster then light and destroy planets. it does harm to superman's character when writters make him more powerfull then he should be.

😆 For some reason people think I hate Supes because I say he can't win every match alive. 😐

I love Supes 😱

Originally posted by Ritoshi
😆 For some reason people think I hate Supes because I say he can't win every match alive. 😐

I love Supes 😱

All the arguments I see by the superman camp are revolving on the dbz characters not going FTL and downplaying all of there feats such as the 36 times Gotenks went around the world.

The Dbz guys don't need to be FTL to beat supes i don't know where that came from.Wonder Women and Capt.marvel don't move no where near FTL and they manage to beat up on Supes.In fact WW has broken his bones and why is it that Goku couldn't do the same.

I myself think Goku has a great chance and none of the arguments for Supes are convincing me.Now all the DBZ guys at once is just overkill.

Originally posted by dvampire
It wasn't even stated how many times Gotenks went around the planet. ]

Originally posted by dvampire
[B]All we know is he went around alot of times and rested in the between the 25 minutes it took Piccolo to find him.

Originally posted by dvampire
And then we have S. Buu who after absorbing Gotenks and Gohan, took awhile to fly towards Goku and Vegeta when they was about to fuse, so it again none of them still isn't close to light speed. it's just wishful thinking! 😕

Originally posted by The Unknown
Do you even watch DBZ? Energy beams are slower than bullets when fired on a planet. For some reason (plothole probably, energy beams gather great speed when in space. If you want to disprove what I just said, name [B]ONE time where it was stated/shown that energy beams move at light speed. [/B]

Originally posted by The Unknown
Assumptions. That is neither stated nor shown. If he went around the planet 36 times, then part of it wasn't shown.

The planet is rotating. If he was going anywhere near the speed required to do what you say he did, the planet would remain still.

again all you do is pick and choose and then say nu-uh when something doesn't agree with your bias perceptions.. you're hopeless.