Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

Started by Gplex212 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
"if you don´t know the answers, is because you didn´t read the Manga.

That make your opinion less credible. debating without knowing."

🙄

Ive read it... before I read it I though superman would win... you have never read the manga have you...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Tell me... How did they measure the common black hole's mass?

by the effects on the surounding envoroment.. the did the same for the moon all the planets and the sun...

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Ki (power level) =/= speed or strength

Originally posted by Gplex
by the effects on the surounding envoroment.. the did the same for the moon all the planets and the sun...

Please stop asking me questin like this go look them up on google...

Originally posted by Gplex
Thats why I said normal black holes (the most common found)

Fine, clarified

Originally posted by Gplex
Ive read it... before I read it I though superman would win... you have never read the manga have you...
Of course I read the manga.. I told you .. Superman rips goku's head off and shits down his neck... Didn't you read the manga? sly

Hey if you don't have to prove your claims then why should I? 😆

Originally posted by Gplex
You want me to post 4 comic books!!! hell no go ask a friend of yours who has the manga...

I have the manga. And you're wrong.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
I ll come back with the scans.

But Frezza was 50 %

Goku give him 20 kaioken and Freeza resisted.

Freeza kill Krillin and Goku transform and level Freeza 100 %

A baby with logic understand this.

by going to eat. 12 pm here

Yes, a baby would, and anyone more intelligent would realize that power levels/ki are not equal to linear speed or strength increases

Originally posted by Endless Mike
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Ki (power level) =/= speed or strength

But only Trunks and that form of cell (2 people not 1 my bad) powerup like that.... It has never applyed to anyone else.. Plus Ive only been using everyone normal powerlevel not there powerup level...

Originally posted by Gplex
Ive read it... before I read it I though superman would win... you have never read the manga have you...

I have

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yes, a baby would, and anyone more intelligent would realize that power levels/ki are not equal to linear speed or strength increases

Yet you have only showen this too be true on people who powerup like trunks??? did goku ever do that???

Originally posted by Gplex
But only Trunks and that form of cell (2 people not 1 my bad) powerup like that.... It has never applyed to anyone else.. Plus Ive only been using everyone normal powerlevel not there powerup level...

Special pleading fallacy.

I've shown you two examples, why would you assume that everything else is different? Frieza had a huge musclebound form as well, if you recall.

Ki and power levels cannot be used to judge a character's actual strength or speed

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I have the manga. And you're wrong.

So your saying Cell wasnt much stronger then Goku (you know dam well goku has beaten people or keep up with people 3 -20 times stronger then he is...

Originally posted by Gplex
Yet you have only showen this too be true on people who powerup like trunks??? did goku ever do that???
Which is more than you've done. You haven't proven anything.

So how about you provide a scan that shows the numbers that you keep pulling out of your ass?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Special pleading fallacy.

I've shown you two examples, why would you assume that everything else is different? Frieza had a huge musclebound form as well, if you recall.

Ki and power levels cannot be used to judge a character's actual strength or speed

Again did goku power up like that?

Originally posted by Gplex
Yet you have only showen this too be true on people who powerup like trunks??? did goku ever do that???

Yes he did. Read the scans I posted.

The point is that there are circumstances where it doesn't work the way you would think. Combined with the horrible power level inconsistencies (the farmer, Frieza destroying planets vegeta and namek, Vegeta hitting the punching machine, DBZ characters never having any strength or speed feats to remotely suggest what you are saying) it's obvious you're wrong.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which is more than you've done. You haven't proven anything.

So how about you provide a scan that shows the numbers that you keep pulling out of your ass?

The only time I gess on a number was with cell (because there is no numbers to calculate by... you having being saying bs like that way before then... you have not showen me wrong on any number...

Originally posted by Gplex
So your saying Cell wasnt much stronger then Goku (you know dam well goku has beaten people or keep up with people 3 -20 times stronger then he is...

Based on ki. Not on actual strength, speed, or destructive ability.

Originally posted by Gplex
Again did goku power up like that?
Your argument is invalid as you commit the sham distinction fallacy.

You're not being logical. Please prove that goku was different.. provide scans.

Originally posted by Gplex
Again did goku power up like that?

Yes. Read the scans.

That's irrelevant anyway since the point is that power levels are a measurement of ki, not speed or strength.