Originally posted by chickenlover98
the hero can lose thats a freakin first but wait whats the only show i can think of that came up with that concept........................................... oh yeah dbz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you really that naive that you think dbz came up with the idea of a hero being able to lose?Im going to bed, superkronick signing off
Originally posted by jinzin
okay now you're just being ridiculous...radiant doesn't use KI no.. he uses PURE ENERGY... thus no energy shot at him in such a fasion would kill him again after having already adapted to PURE energy... "DOS dd was already>>>>>>radiant" is EXACTLY MY POINT. doh
if he hadn't fought the radiant before (thus not having been adapted to the use of energy for a meathod of attack), then goku would curb doomy if he was there in DOS....
This statement is purely idiotic. Who cares WHY DD was immune to energy at that time. He simply was and still far above Goku physically. Nice try at trying to backtrack.
Originally posted by jinzin
supes was equal to DD ONE TIME... ONCE.... that was it... after that every time they met up supes got his socks rocked.. why? cause DD had evolved past supe's primary and most effective meathod of attack.You're ignoring the whole reason WHY goku couldn't take doomsday by DOS...
So you are admitted that Goku would be beaten both physically AND by energy here by DOS Doomsday.... the same guy that SUPERMAN stalemated...you know John Byrne Supes...the weakest version? Long before his current powerups....
Originally posted by jinzin
DOS doomsday>>>> doomsday rex.... 😐I'm not backtracking.. and the STORY PROVES IT... read the whole arch up to that point... DD wasn't coming back under his own power anytime soon. I don't have to backtrack anything, you're ignoring facts.
I have about 90% of DD's appearances... It's still the same DD vs a confident pissed Supes. You're the only person who goes on about DD rex.
Originally posted by jinzin
well at least you can agree that he's irrelivant... 😉pfffft...
To you. Unfortunately, the writer of the arc disagrees.
Grant Morrison > Your opinion. 🙂 While the moon moving would have been done differently, the wrestling would still have been the same.
Originally posted by jinzin
*magically enhanced batman uppercuts supes through the ceiling*
"well the writer was gonna use regular batman to do it, so it's clearly an applicable feat for what regular batman can do".. 😕
Well, Einsteins theory says and power rating blah blah, still get hurt by rocks and needles... Kryptonte Batman was owned...
Originally posted by jinzin
excuse me but hasn't it been defeated by supergirl? and didn't he die by getting punched into a star?
I'm sorry, because Goku or DBZ characters have never died before...and to far less...
PC Supergirl would own GOKU by the way.
Originally posted by jinzin
it wasn't my argument that said they were going the speed of sound.. goku OBVIOUSLY travels faster than light like when he I.T.ed to the kai's planet in a matter of a second. He's so much faster than light using I.T. it's no even funny.. again. it's not teleportation.. it's similar.. VERY similar but that's just not what it is.I've already proven that DBZers ARE faster than SOL.. as per radditz example.. no one.. NOT ONE of you has disproven this example... I don't have to pawn anything here... you're the one ignoring simplistic facts.
Goku doesn't have problems building up energy either... maybe to get to the same level as high tier opponents but I mean honestly... his high tier opponents make superman look weak, and that's coming from the frieza saga...goku never did that, he never tried.. though he did change the afterlife demension while going ss3 to fight janemba..
gotenks managed to pull off the same feat rather easily and he's not even close to guys like gohan and goku in terms of power.
You haven't proven ANYTHING about them going faster than light. Nightcrawler = Goku. You still can't take the fact that they are slow as molasses... the Buu fight is a PERFECT example... and for all their training, Buu isn't even a skilled fighter...
Originally posted by jinzin
🤨 it was microscopic in size and hadn't even fully opened and it was STILL taxing on him.
Goku still couldn't do it. Nuff said.
Originally posted by jinzin
king kai's sitting there completely calm.. then boom he has a look of panic on his face as he realizes the southern galaxy no longer exists...
In other words it did not show him blowing it up in 1 stroke...
Originally posted by jinzin
and deathstroke toe to toed with one.. too bad the ring's feats are totally contingent on will power... supes has plenty of that.
And they've also held supernovas and big bang energy. Goku is a low energy GL at most without the versatility. I love how you try to hide behind jobber moments. Please please make a deathstroke vs Kyle thread and embarrass yourself.
Originally posted by jinzin
it's an issue cause he's not faster.. i fail to see how his senses wil help him here when goku can feel every move he makes.
Yes, Goku will feel the pain briefly as he tries to use his ki to compensate for HV, ridiculous amounts of strength far above DOS version of himself and Doomsday, far faster speed, planet freezing breath...etc.
Originally posted by jinzin
sun's a bad example.. black holes already covered...
without being powered up.. sure... with a power up.. no....
They still can't survive it, no matter how you try to cut it, word it etc...
Nothing mentioned about Radditz being faster than the speed of light...
Originally posted by Femi32
Nothing mentioned about Radditz being faster than the speed of light...
Could be in another version of the manga theres about 3 comapnaies who did the dub, but I do know the anime said he moves at the speed of light.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Could be in another version of the manga theres about 3 comapnaies who did the dub, but I do know the anime said he moves at the speed of light.
The anime also says Bardock was a scientist and Frieza using one percent of his power when he was actually at 50% when fighting Goku for the first time.
Originally posted by Femi32
The anime also says Bardock was a scientist and Frieza using one percent of his power when he was actually at 50% when fighting Goku for the first time.
I didnt say the anime made sense, I was just saying that is where everyone gets the speed of light from raditz from...not that I made that very clear.
Originally posted by Femi32it doesn'thave to man it's a self evident fact...
Nothing mentioned about Radditz being faster than the speed of light...
piccolos beam canon reaches escape velocity and hits the moon in 2 seconds.. it takes 1.45 seconds for light to reach the earth from the moon, so radditz dodged something that was 60% the speed of light.... he's a 1200 level character.. hence anyone with a PL of 2400 could dodge something that's 120% the speed of light.. it's simplistic logic.
Originally posted by jinzin
it doesn'thave to man it's a self evident fact...piccolos beam canon reaches escape velocity and hits the moon in 2 seconds.. it takes 1.45 seconds for light to reach the earth from the moon, so radditz dodged something that was 60% the speed of light.... he's a 1200 level character.. hence anyone with a PL of 2400 could dodge something that's 120% the speed of light.. it's simplistic logic.
Dodging something doesn't mean you're faster than light. Spider-man dodges bullets all the time. That doesn't mean he can run faster than them. I could dodge something being thrown at me at 20 miles an hour, but that doesn't mean I can run faster than that speed.
