Dooku's Skill

Started by Rampant ox28 pages

Whats your point??

The point got a little sidetracked as I got stuck reading the very lengthy ongoing stalemate between ashgarak, Darth Vious, Rampant Ox etc

Prior to the point I have a question for you all to consider that does reflect on this

Who was the better duelist

Qui-Gon Jinn or Darth Maul

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Originally posted by Captain REX
Your evidence is false, however, so you're just throwing your weight around, and that's gets annoying. barker

What do you think this is, a democratic nation? If you're causing problems, we have every right to silence you. We're not changing our policy just because you provide reasons (that only make sense to you) that we should. It just doesn't work that way.

And if Jam's going to nitpick at our policy, the only thing we need to change is put GL's word up there with the movies, therefore matching LFL's policy.

And you're still wrong, whether you care or not. 😐


A scene written by George Lucas, starring Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher and filmed by Irving Kirshner is false... Good logic there. Just because the scene was cut from the scene (at either Kirshner's or Lucas' order) doesn't change Lucas' intentions when he wrote it
Also, I never said that you should change your policy, only that it was possible for policies to be changed.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, I threatened to ban you for spamming the foruns- which you did- and then arguing with a moderator, both of which are bannable offences.

Oh so Escape posting the same text over and over doesn't count as spamming either? And Overlord's attempts to pick fights (rather than debate) aren't spamming or trolling?
If you don't want to agree with my opinion, fine, that's your right, just don't go accusing me of spamming the boards and threatening to ban me, but let other people do the exact same thing.

As I said before, I am happy to let this drop, I'd hope you would do the same.
Have a pleasant weekend.

Well, I told you to stop arguing, and you did not. Take some time off.

Vious loses.

And George cut the scene. Obviously, he changed his mind. He has that right. Therefore, it's false.

You need to change your attitude. 😉

So who do you think was the better duelist

QUI GON or Darth MAUL

THis does pertain to dooku

Why the hell am I constantly carried in by Vious? If the messages I leave behind are already spamming then everybody should be restricted.

So I take it this thread has been corrupted/deviated from its original purpose being the discussion of Dooku's skill, to now being nothing more than a mudslinging, harrasement compaign.

Personally, since several people involved in the argument keep saying drop it then can you please B????y well do so, so that we can actually return to the original point of this discussion

Dooku's skill

And if that is the case, would it be possible then for some people reading this to actually take a second or two to give their opinion on now the thrice asked question of

GUI GON vs Darth MAUL who the better duelist

According to EU sources Qui Gon is supposed to be pretty good or something, his Ataru still sucks though and Maul beat him fair and square.
I wonder if people will scream: "OH!! But Maul beat with his zaborr and then killed him!!" That would be awesome!

If you noticed Qui-Gon was winning until Maul forced him on the defense. Qui-Gon sucks at defense but is great with offense.

Ataru is just plain shit just like kit fisto.

overlord all you do is troll. Not only have i seen it but i have talked to others that say you troll. And yet you never get in trouble. Now here is the real point this post.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f38/t20461.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f5/t20463.html

"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences."

it says it right there that movies are the absolute cannon. It does not say Lucas is the absolute cannon. Ushgarak you were the one that made that whole post. Are you now going against what you posted as forum policy? Also restricting Darth Vious was stupid. Yes his Luke and Leia thing was annoying but he kept providing proof for his words and was debating properly. Nothing in the movie proved Anakin was a better swordsman. Yes he won. He won for several reasons. Dooku though if he lost Palpatine would step in to keep him from getting killed. No one fights their hardest when they have a safty net. That is basic psychology. The fight started on 2 on 1. 2 on one is likly to wear someone down but when it is 2 young vs 1 60 year old guy, the 60 year old will wear out faster. Dooku's arrogence throughout the duel. He taunted Anakin making him angry. When angry Anakin become physicly stronger. Anakin grabbed Dooku's arm to restrain his arm from being able to stop Anakin from chopping it off. Restraining a 60 year old man would be easy for just about anyone Anakin's age. Reason there is no proof that Anakin is not a better swordsman. He failed to land a blow on Dooku. He had to resort to grabbing Dooku's arms to win. Here is reasons as why Anakin is not better. First off you can not realy tell this from ROTS. So let's look at Dooku's fight against Yoda in AOTC. Dooku stalemated with Yoda is a contest of sabers.

Now if Anakin was better swordman then he would be better then Yoda. If you were to ask Lucas if Anakin was a better swordman then Yoda I bet Lucas would say no. Then so many are thinking Anakin is more powerful then dooku because of palpatine's line. My question to you is how you can trust the word of someone who has been lieing to everyone in entire galaxy for a long time. There is nothing in the movie that proves what Palpatine said was true. Yes he had the highest potential of anyone but he did not even come close to achieving his full potential. Even Lucas has said Anakin did not come close to reaching his full potential. At best in lightsaber skill Anakin is on par with him which puts Obi-Wan on par with him as well. But as for force control Dooku is way ahead of him. As to why Palpatine wanted Anakin as his apprentice over Dooku is simple, While at the time Anakin was not as powerful as Dooku, Palpatine knew of his high potential and knew if he trained him properly, Anakin would be Unstoppable. Do not forget how much Anakin trusted Palpatine. Something Palpatine had been working on for a long time. He wanted Anakin all along. Now all we are going to see on this thread anymore is pointless bickering. I am not a Dooku Fanboy. So don't go calling me one. I think this thread needs to be shut down because the debates are getting bad on both sides. The reason is cause everyone has said just about all their is say. While the Lucas and Anakin fans might think words from lucas of some secondary cannon script is proof enough. The rest of us are looking from what we saw in the movies and yes some have pointed out secondary cannon novel evidence. I myself am simply looking at what I saw in the movie. As the forum policy post says. The movies are the highest form of cannon. At least on this site.

Originally posted by Jam-Jul_Lison
[B]overlord all you do is troll. Not only have i seen it but i have talked to others that say you troll. And yet you never get in trouble.

Exactly

it says it right there that movies are the absolute cannon. It does not say Lucas is the absolute cannon. Ushgarak you were the one that made that whole post. Are you now going against what you posted as forum policy? Also restricting Darth Vious was stupid. Yes his Luke and Leia thing was annoying but he kept providing proof for his words and was debating properly. Nothing in the movie proved Anakin was a better swordsman. Yes he won. He won for several reasons. Dooku though if he lost Palpatine would step in to keep him from getting killed. No one fights their hardest when they have a safty net. That is basic psychology. The fight started on 2 on 1. 2 on one is likly to wear someone down but when it is 2 young vs 1 60 year old guy, the 60 year old will wear out faster. Dooku's arrogence throughout the duel. He taunted Anakin making him angry. When angry Anakin become physicly stronger. Anakin grabbed Dooku's arm to restrain his arm from being able to stop Anakin from chopping it off. Restraining a 60 year old man would be easy for just about anyone Anakin's age. Reason there is no proof that Anakin is not a better swordsman. He failed to land a blow on Dooku. He had to resort to grabbing Dooku's arms to win. Here is reasons as why Anakin is not better. First off you can not realy tell this from ROTS. So let's look at Dooku's fight against Yoda in AOTC. Dooku stalemated with Yoda is a contest of sabers.

Once again exactly right. Only Dooku was around 80 years old btw.

Your probably gonna be banned for continuing this thread.... 🥷

Originally posted by kamikz
Your probably gonna be banned for continuing this thread.... 🥷

last time i checked this thread was still open. if the mods want no one else posting then they can just close the thread.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Exactly

Once again exactly right. Only Dooku was around 80 years old btw.

Anakin is better then Dooku, proven many times so:

Originally posted by =X=
[B]Anakin is better then Dooku, proven many times so:

LMAO!!!!