The End of the Jedi Order & the Fall of The Republic is Mace Windu's Fault!

Started by queeq7 pages

I can't believe you answered that sincerely. 😂

Originally posted by queeq
I can't believe you answered that sincerely. 😂

Me neither 😆

I don't sympathise with the sith, but I don't sympathize with the jedi either.

I was glad to see my clones cut them down 🙂

I like Sam L and Mace, but his character's idoelogy is so twisted it confuses the hell out of me.

pr1983, if you really want me to continue, thats fine, but half of that post was just intended to be humor 😛

More! More!

Originally posted by pr1983
I sincerely hope that's sarcasm... are you saying he shouldnt have killed jango?

Yes. Jagno clearly had depth as a character. "They grow up loyal to the Republic or they don't grow up at all." Hardly a comment from a man who hates the republic and fathered their entire army. How to you think the ARCs liked that Mace killed thier father? I'm sure this helped them go 66. What happened to free trials? Or is it when a Jedi thinks you've done somehting wrong...its just a simple execution.
Originally posted by pr1983
The sith and the jedi can't share the same galaxy, only one can survive, so mace was (imo), acting to save the jedi...

Why? Didn't the Jedi go to kindergarten and lean how to share? The Chancellor was elected. And again, what happened to arrest? Does Mace have a death fetish?
Originally posted by pr1983
The senate would never let half of what you just mentioned happen, because their totally (bar a select few) under the emperor's spell...

The Empror has spells now? Um...ok. I must have missed my witchcraft lessons. Tell me, does Palpatine have a cauldron too? Ever heard of the Petition of the 2000? Clearly all the senators weren't under the Chancellors thumb.
Originally posted by pr1983
No he doesn't, he's a jedi, they've been the protectors of the republic for generations, and palpatine was a threat to the republic and the jedi...

Exactly. Palpatine was a threat to the Jedi. Mace doesn't even think about what's best for the Republic. He just hears the word "Sith" and goes into a bloodthirsty rage. What laws did the Chancellor break that warrants his arrest? Much less his spontaneous execution? Huh?
Originally posted by pr1983
I don't think so... mace brought them as a deterrent (admittedly it didnt work), but if palps had come quietly i think mace would have taken him in, not out, as it were...

If a rabid jedi has a saber at your throat, are you going to go quietly. Palpatine was very right to think that Mace was there to kill him (he was right). He acted in self defence.
Originally posted by pr1983
Wow... seriously... do you actually like any jedi at all? 😛

mace had minutes to make a decision, and time was of the essence...


Yes to the first part. I'm arguing from a more one sided point of view. You'll have to read my fanfic when I finish it.

Mace doesn't think at all, he just kills. Several minutes are plenty of time to think...and he had the whole larty ride over.

Originally posted by pr1983
I think he genuinely wanted to arrest palpatine, but believed palps wouldn't come quietly...

Then having four Jedi draw their sabers on Palpatine is a real funny way of asking "Please come with us."
Originally posted by pr1983
A jedi master and a protector of the republic, not to mention an enemy of the sith (who are EVIL, remember 😛)

Umm...where did you read that...FOX News?
Originally posted by pr1983
I honestly think thats way off...

He was certainly very eager to get rid of a democratically elected leader.
Originally posted by pr1983
Mace wouldn't need to confer, as i said, time was of the essence, and to be honest, if it was me, i'd want to get my hands on the sith lord asap... 😬

Yes, and what would have happened if Palpatine ran away? The "evil" Sith would have been removed from office and a new chancellor had been elected.

Are you saying law enforcers don't have to know laws before they enforce them?

Originally posted by pr1983
Ok... 😖

Seriously.
Originally posted by pr1983
I still think he was right, and i don't believe he was a traitor...You and i are never going to agree... 😛

We might in actuality, but I'm trying to make a point.

Originally posted by pr1983
sorry for the length of the post, truly i am... 😮

Next time...make it shorter. My original post was short, cant you at least give me the same courtesy??? :confused" Or are you an @ss like Mace?? 😛

Ive read alot of what been said and have to say that Mace acting too eagerly to confront Palp. Why not take Ana, he was trusted by Palp which would of made the whole process much easier. However he goes alone and takes an aggressive course of acting, and what crime did Plap comment?

This was brought up in a previous post, but its a very good question. So he's a Sith. Yet thats just a Religion and if the PM or the Pres suddenly turn, I dont know Catholic over night. It wouldnt be a reason to have him arrested. Im sure we can all think of other reasons to do that 😄

I seems a bit of a piss take that the Jedi deside what Faith everyone should have and if THEY deem it as wrong or like people keep saying EVIL they'll kill you for it.

Hehehe... I love it. Good debate. Clealry Lucas did not think these things through very well.

But I doubt the Clones would hold Jango's death against Mace. They prolly didn't even know he was their DNA-donor.

I think they very much did.

Why do you think that? They're not supposed to think, only DO.

Thats clearly not the case. Lucas may try to present it that way....

"Clones can think creatively..." If they can do so in combat, why not in other aspects?

Because they are made for combat. All other thinking would be... unnecessesary.

I could be wrong but wasnt Pad's body guard a clone? Why didnt he go all Rambo if they had a vendeta against MACE FOR Fetts beheading?

i think jar jar binks was the fault of the fall of the republic.
he took padmes place in episode II while she travelled to naboo.
then he proposed to the senate that they give palpatine emergency powers that eventually led to the creation of the empire at the end of episode III

Originally posted by darth_fidelis
i think jar jar binks was the fault of the fall of the republic.
he took padmes place in episode II while she travelled to naboo.
then he proposed to the senate that they give palpatine emergency powers that eventually led to the creation of the empire at the end of episode III
Good call, but I dont wanna talki about Jar jar as when I do blood runs out my eyes as I try to contain the anger 😄

Originally posted by Revan Souer
Good call, but I dont wanna talki about Jar jar as when I do blood runs out my eyes as I try to contain the anger 😄

haha yea i hate jar jar.

but then again if jar jar binks hadnt handed over power to paplatine nearly every jedi excluding yoda and the younglings wouldve died on geonosis

Originally posted by darth_fidelis
haha yea i hate jar jar.
I think it goes further than hate to be honest.

On the MACE issue I wonder why didnt Mace take any Troopers with him if he thoigh Palp was such a big threat and they wanted to take him alive?

well maybe because the troops genetics had been altered to obey any orders....mainly from palpatine.
so if if palpatine ordered the jedi as traitors, which he eventually did, they would not side with mace but would instead fire on him and the other jedis he brought along.
but i really think it was anakins destiny to join the dark side.
he is the chosen one so maybe he is the one to shose his destiny.

It was Jedi business I guess.

Yeah. The clones are my heroes, but even the commanders wouldn't have understood the Jedi assassination of Palpatine.

I don't think the higher troopers would have cared.

Then again...Mace is an idot and the Order needed to be shreaded anyway.

We know that, hahaha.