Beta ray Bill vs Doomsday

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Killing DOS Superman.
2. Blitzing Superman along with the entire justice league before they can respond.
3. Taking thousands of Superman's blows before going down
4. Taking the entire Justice League's attacks without any damage.
5. Taking world's strongest laser (hotter than the core of the Sun) without damage.
6. Having armored piercing bullets richochet off him at full speed.
7. Having bony protrusions which will cause more damage and bleeding.

In Summary, using speed, DD will catch BRB in a serious combination. If in the highly unlikely event that BRB manages to strike DD then DD shrugs it off due to his enormous durability and continues to let BRB have the bony protrusion.

BRB has pretty good odds against DoS Superman as well. Even mainstream Superman prior to the 52 relaunch wouldn't stomp Bill, though he'd get the majority and he'd earn it at that. And show me scans of Doomsday speedblitzing the JLA and Superman.

Not much Doomsday can do or choose to do when BRB just decides to rain spam death from above with Stormbreaker. Comparing lasers and armored piercing bullets to Bill's power output is laughable at best.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Killing DOS Superman.
2. Blitzing Superman along with the entire justice league before they can respond.
3. Taking thousands of Superman's blows before going down
4. Taking the entire Justice League's attacks without any damage.
5. Taking world's strongest laser (hotter than the core of the Sun) without damage.
6. Having armored piercing bullets richochet off him at full speed.
7. Having bony protrusions which will cause more damage and bleeding.

In Summary, using speed, DD will catch BRB in a serious combination. If in the highly unlikely event that BRB manages to strike DD then DD shrugs it off due to his enormous durability and continues to let BRB have the bony protrusion.

1. Superman didn't technically die.
2. He had fast combat speed, but his travel speed was meh. And that was a slower Superman.
3. Proof it was thousands? and this IS DOS Superman, one that is not nearly as powerful as the current pre-reboot one.
4. Energy attacks, after he had developed a strong resistance to them.
5. It was hot. He survived it. That's not a huge feat for a herald.
6. A non-feat.
7. You'd have to prove they can pierce Bill's skin.

Combination? He's not a martial artist.

He's not shrugging off a hammer-shot to the face. Not at all.

BB has thors feat he will overpower DD easy and he can by teleporting him to another universe like thor does with jugs adn even surtur and ymir...Or he can probably seal his soul and stop DD from being reborne again just like how i think it was greenlantern he did that with other DC allies ...But either way even if BB gets killed he to can be reborne... DD wouldnt be able to replicate odin force.

BB doesn't automatically get all of Thor's feats.

Bill's own feats are enough. DoS Doomsday becomes DoD Doomsday at the end of the day.

BRB would utterly wreck DOS Supes too. Not a pretty sight.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
BRB has pretty good odds against DoS Superman as well. Even mainstream Superman prior to the 52 relaunch wouldn't stomp Bill, though he'd get the majority and he'd earn it at that. And show me scans of Doomsday speedblitzing the JLA and Superman.

Not much Doomsday can do or choose to do when BRB just decides to rain spam death from above with Stormbreaker. Comparing lasers and armored piercing bullets to Bill's power output is laughable at best.

If armored piercing bullets richochet off a being AT FULL SPEED then it shows the level of the being's durability. The greater a being's physical durability then the more repellent they are of armored piercing bullets.

But again, surviving thousands of Superman punches shows that DD can take many of BRB physical strikes and keep on fighting with vigilance.

It is not the concussive power of energy blasts that do the damage, but rather the burning power. If DD can't be burned or harmed by the entire output of the entire Justice League and tanks a beam hotter than the core of a star then I don't think BRB will be harming DD well with any blasts (assuming he gets the chance to).

Would armor piercing bullets at full speed even bother Thor? Or Thing? Hell, or even Luke Cage or Rhino?

Originally posted by cdtm
Would armor piercing bullets at full speed even bother Thor? Or Thing? Hell, or even Luke Cage or Rhino?

Thor's already tanked armor piercing rounds, barring that incident with the sniper shot.

yeah plus thors also been on the star where his hammer was forged which is like millions of degrees, and hence was resistant to its high temperature..

Originally posted by cdtm
Would armor piercing bullets at full speed even bother Thor? Or Thing? Hell, or even Luke Cage or Rhino?

They would bother Thor slightly (leave welts).

Originally posted by -Pr-
1. Superman didn't technically die.
2. He had fast combat speed, but his travel speed was meh. And that was a slower Superman.
3. Proof it was thousands? and this IS DOS Superman, one that is not nearly as powerful as the current pre-reboot one.
4. Energy attacks, after he had developed a strong resistance to them.
5. It was hot. He survived it. That's not a huge feat for a herald.
6. A non-feat.
7. You'd have to prove they can pierce Bill's skin.

Combination? He's not a martial artist.

He's not shrugging off a hammer-shot to the face. Not at all.

1. Correct
2. Correct but combat speed is what I'm referring to.
3. They were fighting for hours at super speed. Thousands would be the bare minimum.
4. He was already seemingly immune to energy attacks from the very beginning of DOS.
5. It's not a huge feat for heralds but just gives more evidence that DD can tank BRB blasts.
6. Not really. We have Thor getting welt's from armored piercing bullets (not standard bullets of course).
7. There are many instances in comics where Bill's skin was broke by attacks not necessarily greater than DD's attacks.

A dumb Gorilla can do a combination. All he has to do is go ape shyte on someone. MA training is not needed.

If BRB winds up before striking (takes time to twirl the hammer for an increase momentum in striking power) then DD will be dazed by a blow to the face. But DD is not going to sit there and let BRB whirl the hammer to sufficient speeds. He is relentless, and Bill would be forced to do quick jab like strikes instead (if he has any chance of striking DD with the hammer).

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's already tanked armor piercing rounds, barring that incident with the sniper shot.

That was retconned as a vibranium bullet, I believe.

Originally posted by h1a8
A dumb Gorilla can do a combination. All he has to do is go ape shyte on someone. MA training is not needed.

"Ape shit to KO principle" does indeed sound more appropriate.

Doomsday kills this Thor wannabe.

poor bill

😛

Originally posted by h1a8
They would bother Thor slightly (leave welts).

1. Correct
2. Correct but combat speed is what I'm referring to.
3. They were fighting for hours at super speed. Thousands would be the bare minimum.
4. He was already seemingly immune to energy attacks from the very beginning of DOS.
5. It's not a huge feat for heralds but just gives more evidence that DD can tank BRB blasts.
6. Not really. We have Thor getting welt's from armored piercing bullets (not standard bullets of course).
7. There are many instances in comics where Bill's skin was broke by attacks not necessarily greater than DD's attacks.

A dumb Gorilla can do a combination. All he has to do is go ape shyte on someone. MA training is not needed.

If BRB winds up before striking (takes time to twirl the hammer for an increase momentum in striking power) then DD will be dazed by a blow to the face. But DD is not going to sit there and let BRB whirl the hammer to sufficient speeds. He is relentless, and Bill would be forced to do quick jab like strikes instead (if he has any chance of striking DD with the hammer).

3. They weren't fighting for hours at super-speed. They only started using it late in the game.
4. Superman's heat vision was able to give him pause later on.
5. Why?
6. It's not quantifiable.
7. And DD was hurt by attacks not necessarily as strong as Bill's best attacks.

Wailing on him like a gorilla will only work if Bill fights stupidly.

Dazed? Are you serious? A strong hit from the hammer is going to knock him on his ass. The hammer is more than capable of hurting him.

Originally posted by h1a8
It is not the concussive power of energy blasts that do the damage, but rather the burning power. If DD can't be burned or harmed by the entire output of the entire Justice League and tanks a beam hotter than the core of a star then I don't think BRB will be harming DD well with any blasts (assuming he gets the chance to).

not all energy blasts are heat-based or produce heat. even when DD fought the League, you could argue that a couple of those attacks aren't even heat based.

BRB Crushes him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
BB doesn't automatically get all of Thor's feats.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Why not? In most other Doomsday threads people have no problem giving Superman's feats to Doomsday.

So you completely agree with them? Otherwise I don't see how that argument justifies a "why not".

Originally posted by Bentley
So you completely agree with them? Otherwise I don't see how that argument justifies a "why not".