Beta ray Bill vs Doomsday

Originally posted by Starscream M
he's taken superman's hardest hits without trouble...brb is not much harder than superman

also, there's a reason why superman decided to BFR dd to the end of time

if physical force could beat dd, superman wouldve sought help or just found a way to boost his strength

this is dos though, right? hp slaughters bill imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
this is dos though, right? hp slaughters bill imo.

dd was as powerful as needed to be...to kill the most powerful hero at the time

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm with you...ie, writer intent

dd was as powerful as needed to be...to kill the most powerful hero at the time

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doomsday is a plot device through and through, but at the same token, if beating superman back then required that (doomsday did "die" also), bill can muster that force up.

see, i can see where people might say that. based on bill today, and superman in that year. however, if bill were inserted into that book, i have no doubt dd would have destroyed him as he destroyed everyone else in his way. he was indeed a plot device, and i don't think that portion of his character can be ignored. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
see, i can see where people might say that. based on bill today, and superman in that year. however, if bill were inserted into that book.....

bill stomps

Originally posted by psycho gundam
stopped reading 😉

bill stomps

meh, facts can't be ignored. dd takes him, no doubt whatsoever in my mind.

so anyone who is not superman would get wrecked by doomsday to conserve the inevitable climax showdown? please say it isn't so

dd is a funny character. and if supes died to beat him, i'd say pretty much, yeah to the above. likely not popular, but.... i don't much care. or at least it would need to be someone analagous to supes. thor maybe the only marvel herald i would say could do what supes did. the intention of the character was crystal clear imo--the ultimate challenge to the ultimate hero. a character that could not be beaten without the ultimate sacrifice. he has been shown to have limits, but VERY few standard heroes can match or exceed them imo. and bill is most certainly not one imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
dd is a funny character. and if supes died to beat him, i'd say pretty much, yeah to the above. likely not popular, but.... i don't much care. or at least it would need to be someone analagous to supes. thor maybe the only marvel herald i would say could do what supes did. the intention of the character was crystal clear imo--the ultimate challenge to the ultimate hero. a character that could not be beaten without the ultimate sacrifice. he has been shown to have limits, but VERY few standard heroes can match or exceed them imo. and bill is most certainly not one imo.

Physically, Thor and Bill are equals--their battles with one another over the years are proof enough of that. So if Thor could physically beat DoS DD, Bill should be able to as well.

...Though it'd be a very long and drawn out battle.

Originally posted by Galan007
Physically, Thor and Bill are equals--their battles with one another over the years are proof enough of that. So if Thor could physically beat DoS DD, Bill should be able to as well.

...Though it'd be a very long and drawn out battle.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doomsday is a pale imitation of Hulk. Seriously.

Originally posted by Starscream M
does brb have a godblast equivalent?

Originally posted by Starscream M
does brb have a godblast equivalent?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nope. Not at all.
*snip*
vin Old school Savage Hulk get no credit? durhulk

Didn't think so.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
try this, and maybe, just maybe you can weather the storm

YouTube video

Projecting, much?

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DOS DD is a solid low to mid herald. He's capable of giving Bill trouble, no doubt about it; I just see Billl having that little bit more in the tank.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Didn't think so.

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Aaaand, just one more:

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😂

you really like beating off dead horses, don't you... wait. mmm

Originally posted by -Pr-
Projecting, much?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
please, i'm the reason your lady blushes and has to collect herself whenever she passes the cucumber aisle, and she visits the grocers three times a day without you knowing cause she's a fiend like that. flirt

😂

She'd destroy you, little man.

meh, if you seperate 'writer intent' from 'on-panel depiction' and use simply the latter, then you would likely say bill wins a tough fight. if you factor in the former, as i do, dd wins. i clearly see why people say bill--i just think that WHAT dd was meant to represent needs to be factored into his character.

and odg: pffft.