Thats were the problem lies we will never have on panel proof, only what we read. Not trying to be smart darkcrawler honestly but have you read the entire dark elf trilogy, 14 or so books? Thiers some amazing feats in that series. No doubt cap is stronger but then again drizzt has never tried to fight a much stronger opponnent head on( i.e directly blocking a much stronger person)
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But the fact remains, that until Drizzt does something on par to Cap's we must conclude that he isn't faster. Only on same level at most. And Cap beats him in other areas (etc. strength).
I remember once he was running down a rock avalanche quite successfully until a rock hit him in the back of the head unexpectedly.
How much faster is Daredevil than human? Same with Cap compared to all the other Street level humans which are assumed Peak Human.
Elves are faster than that, Drow elves even faster. Drizzt is twice Drow speed, so it is more likely he is faster thanks to his enhancement. With an edge in speed he can split attacks and attack Cap's head and legs simultaneously, which he can do at Even speeds anyway.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Sorry. Cap still has dodged faster things the Drizzt. Drizzt doesn't have nothing to show that he is faster. The sword feat? Cap has done the same with faster things. Like bullets:
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca21053pc.jpg
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=103ak.jpgOr flamethrowers:
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav48p15hgwells7xe.jpg
http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav48p16hgwells0ga.jpgHe moves as fast as the shield he throws:
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica241021xm.jpgAs for not being able to block two swords...you are quite wrong there:
http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv3005065ur.jpgHe could also very easily dodge them:
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv3005059vh.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca140167bd.jpgAs for Drittz dodging Cap's thrown shield...this is one example of how fast it goes:
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1396147hx.jpgFew examples how well he throws it (he handles the shield as well as Drizzt handles scimitars...not to mention that the shield is harder to handle):
http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap41ed.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avgrs75111kk.jpgAs for Drizzt blocking the shield...won't happen:
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers004138iu.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1010192sc.jpg
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca25045hl.jpg
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericaiii25p342tk.jpgAnd this thing just has to be posted to show Cap badassness. Something that Drizzt could not do:
URL=http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00222pr.jpg][/URL]Most scans taken from Captain America Respect thread.
Okay.
First off, Cap is no way faster than a bullet, what he and all guys like nightwing, batman and him do when peolple shot and they seem like they are dodging the bullets is that they move faster thatn you, ergo, the bullets dont hit them because you can't shoot were they are, you are moving faster that they can aim, caps not faster than a bullet, hes doing the same thing drizzt does and batman does when they apear behind someone, they move way faster than the guy can react.
He moves has fast has his shield????
Bullsh#t, his shield can be trown very fast, but there is no way hes that fast.
And his shield catching up to an ICBM?? Thats just plain bad writing, i dont know of fast are they exactly(the exact speed) but they are freaking fast, no way caps can throw something that fast.
and i would love to see caps shield cut trough magical reinforced adamnite, those pics you showed me? its cutting guns, they are made from steel.
Originally posted by Dalak
I remember once he was running down a rock avalanche quite successfully until a rock hit him in the back of the head unexpectedly.How much faster is Daredevil than human? Same with Cap compared to all the other Street level humans which are assumed Peak Human.
Elves are faster than that, Drow elves even faster. Drizzt is twice Drow speed, so it is more likely he is faster thanks to his enhancement. With an edge in speed he can split attacks and attack Cap's head and legs simultaneously, which he can do at Even speeds anyway.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Human abilities don't always transfer across mediums at a flat rate. As Cap mentions in one comic, he can run 60 mph and he's supposed to be peak human. That's just nuts.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Human abilities don't always transfer across mediums at a flat rate. As Cap mentions in one comic, he can run 60 mph and he's supposed to be peak human. That's just nuts.
Well I grant you that to a point because of DBZ, but D&D Humans can do some amazing stuff (on the Street Level) as can marvel humans. HIgh-End Elves are faster and more agile however, and the magic doubling it should ensure at least a 50% edge in speed IMO
Originally posted by tyranusummm no, cap dodges bullets, he said it himself, it has been stated he DODGES them, he can see the bullet itself coming out the barrell of the gun.
Okay.First off, Cap is no way faster than a bullet, what he and all guys like nightwing, batman and him do when peolple shot and they seem like they are dodging the bullets is that they move faster thatn you, ergo, the bullets dont hit them because you can't shoot were they are, you are moving faster that they can aim, caps not faster than a bullet, hes doing the same thing drizzt does and batman does when they apear behind someone, they move way faster than the guy can react.
He moves has fast has his shield????
Bullsh#t, his shield can be trown very fast, but there is no way hes that fast.
And his shield catching up to an ICBM?? Thats just plain bad writing, i dont know of fast are they exactly(the exact speed) but they are freaking fast, no way caps can throw something that fast.
and i would love to see caps shield cut trough magical reinforced adamnite, those pics you showed me? its cutting guns, they are made from steel.
And yes when thrown hard enough he has BEAT bullets to their marks with the shield.
CAP IS that bad ass and he wins this one 9/10
Originally posted by King KAM
ummm no, cap dodges bullets, he said it himself, it has been stated he DODGES them, he can see the bullet itself coming out the barrell of the gun.And yes when thrown hard enough he has BEAT bullets to their marks with the shield.
CAP IS that bad ass and he wins this one 9/10
Co-signed. He 'sees' faster.
Thats it, Im justifing a fight between a peak human and drizzt, not a super human. No normal human or normal "sub race" being is gonna have much of a chance vs. super humans. Im tellin ya though from what Ive read(and ive read them all) drizzt is tough and would make a decent marvel character in the right setting.
Originally posted by MJOILNIRyet capt america juggles grendates with the pins out, crushes coal into diamonds with his bare hands, and cathes sniper bullets aimed at the back of his head in his teeth.
Thats it, Im justifing a fight between a peak human and drizzt, not a super human. No normal human or normal "sub race" being is gonna have much of a chance vs. super humans. Im tellin ya though from what Ive read(and ive read them all) drizzt is tough and would make a decent marvel character in the right setting.
he dont lose
Originally posted by King KAM
ofcourse he aint peak human..... that bio is just silly...peak humans dont throw sumo wrestlers with ease
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thats it, Im justifing a fight between a peak human and drizzt, not a super human. No normal human or normal "sub race" being is gonna have much of a chance vs. super humans. Im tellin ya though from what Ive read(and ive read them all) drizzt is tough and would make a decent marvel character in the right setting.
Anyway it would only take one little mistake by cap, only one. Its one thing to make a mistake and take a punch in the face, its another to take a schimitar in the face. He has taken plenty of punches i know that for a fact. Its not that easy to block two seperate weapons attacking at the very same moment in two different spots with one shield either.
Originally posted by MJOILNIRwell its a good thing cap doesnt make mistakes.
Anyway it would only take one little mistake by cap, only one. Its one thing to make a mistake and take a punch in the face, its another to take a schimitar in the face. He has taken plenty of punches i know that for a fact. Its not that easy to block two seperate weapons attacking at the very same moment in two different spots with one shield either.
