Tourney Draft #2

Started by grey fox34 pages

Originally posted by newjak86
Ok this is my two cents on the Shaman deal.

I can't qoute it because it makes my post to long so this is on Grey Fox's List. That list isn't very fair Fox why because I can post a listof all powers on any character so far all and they would each havea little nitpiking ability that puts them out.

Anyway most of those powers aren't even rule breaking and that many characters in this tourny can do them or do something else that Shaman can not do. Shaman is very legal in this tourny because Loki is the max level given by the rules and Shaman does not break those limits. He doesn't show anything to put him above Loki. Listen he can summon a few constructs to aid him Loki can make dragons out of clouds which Shaman is under in terms of power. Most of those powers though can be dubplicated by any number of people so far picked in the tourny. SS with his Matter Manipulation powers could pull of quite a few of those cheap tricks of his own. a GL can use the same attack and Defense powers shown by Shaman. In fact the tourny limit Loki has created superpowered beings like Aborbing Man Shaman has never shown anything wuite like that.

Whoever said that Shaman is Dr. Strange is blowing smoke. Shaman has never done anything to put him in that league. Shaman has never contained a Supernova. He has never been able to face of against someone wearing the IG. He is not the walking plot device Strange is. He also isn't Zantanna in that she has a real cheap trick that can end a match real quick. In fact Shaman has never shown anything even close to it. Shaman is not in Strange's league.

In reality only three of his powers are disputed.

One is his vacuum power. Which counts as BFR which many characters chosen so far have but as stated in the tourny rules is banned. So is a non factor from the begining.

The other is his ability to stop time which a few people in this tourny other than Shaman have shown. Instead of banning those characters the general consensus is that the power atself should banned so this is a voided arguement.

The only other thing is Astral Projection which this is the only thing putting him out of the tourny. With exception of this he is perfectly legal within the tourny rules. Although a few other characters have been in a simliar situation. SS and his speed what happened he was simply stated as being only able to use his combat speed. When Cyborg Superman was picked he was obviously over the killability limit with his Mind Hopping ability but instead of banning him we simply realized that if you take that away then he is legal so we banned the power instead of the pick. All BW and I are asking is the same treatment in that Shaman only has one power that puts him above we simply would like to ban him from using the power instead of banninh him.
Thank you for your time

His CREATOR said he was friggen Strange level.

The man can pull anything he wants out of his purse , "Whopp ,I'm having to take on Superman and SS...Oooh whats this"

*Ultimate Nullifies the two of them*

Praise the various arctic gods !!!

Am I the only one seeing sense here.

The man can fricken suck peoplE into his purse into a pocket dimension .

Heres an interveiw with the GUY'S CREATOR !!!!

In an interview found in Marvel Age #2 [May, 1983], John Byrne: "If you want to sum it up . . . he's Dr. Strange--but he does it with potions and herbs and little dolls and stuff, instead of just doing it with the power of his mind, the way Strange does. This possibly gives Shaman a slight advantage, I don't know. If he had the tools at hand, he can make just about anything. I don't know if Strange has that kind of power over the physical world."

Originally posted by grey fox
Am I the only one seeing sense here.

The man can fricken suck peoplE into his purse into a pocket dimension .

Heres an interveiw with the GUY'S CREATOR !!!!

In an interview found in Marvel Age #2 [May, 1983], John Byrne: "If you want to sum it up . . . he's Dr. Strange--but he does it with potions and herbs and little dolls and stuff, instead of just doing it with the power of his mind, the way Strange does. This possibly gives Shaman a slight advantage, I don't know. If he had the tools at hand, he can make just about anything. I don't know if Strange has that kind of power over the physical world."


I agree fully, man. Just makes me glad I couldn't/didn't join. Sucks to be the rest of you.

Originally posted by Khellendros
I agree fully, man. Just makes me glad I couldn't/didn't join. Sucks to be the rest of you.

No , I'm saying he should be BANNED !!!!

You ban characters strange level and above. HIS CREATOR STATED HE'S STRANGE LEVEL.

Come on guy's it's like 1 + 1 , do I have to explain it any clearer to you people.

Originally posted by grey fox
No , I'm saying he should be BANNED !!!!

You ban characters strange level and above. HIS CREATOR STATED HE'S STRANGE LEVEL.

Come on guy's it's like 1 + 1 , do I have to explain it any clearer to you people.

Co-sign to my ruthless and bodacious partner. 😉

Originally posted by grey fox
No , I'm saying he should be BANNED !!!!

You ban characters strange level and above. HIS CREATOR STATED HE'S STRANGE LEVEL.

Come on guy's it's like 1 + 1 , do I have to explain it any clearer to you people.


Dude, I'm agreeing here. Go look at my other posts, I've been arguing against him the whole time.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Dude, I'm agreeing here. Go look at my other posts, I've been arguing against him the whole time.

ENTER the Tournament!

Become a warrior!

Down the heathen dogs!2gunschairfish

Ahhh , ok . Your last post seemed like you were saying

"Yeah I know were letting him in ..oh well not my problem"

Originally posted by Psyquis52
ENTER the Tournament!

Become a warrior!

Down the heathen dogs!


Yeah, no thanks.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Yeah, no thanks.

Awwwww. C'mon!

Why not? We like you. 🙂

Originally posted by Khellendros
Digi, what's your stance on bringing in outside help/creating help, like what Blair did with the Wendigo clones in the last tourney? Does that fall under the "no loopholes" clause, or will we just call it clever and let it alone?

Hey man, I just read a little of the tourney threads and i'm sure someone said that replicating powers were banned..... like for some guy called animal man, someone else said no duplicating

So i would assume that if this Mogo planet thing is like Ego he wouldn't be allowed to create those "anti-body" guys with the square heads that run around beating up the Fantastic Four all the time

Doesn't Shaman carry around replicas of the whole Alpha Flight team in his purse?

I'd assume that if you're not allowed characters that replicate themselves then you wouldn't allow other characters to create people/animals/things to fight for them (which is very different from GL or Quasar constructs)

Originally posted by Master Dan
Hey man, I just read a little of the tourney threads and i'm sure someone said that replicating powers were banned..... like for some guy called animal man, someone else said no duplicating

So i would assume that if this Mogo planet thing is like Ego he wouldn't be allowed to create those "anti-body" guys with the square heads that run around beating up the Fantastic Four all the time

Doesn't Shaman carry around replicas of the whole Alpha Flight team in his purse?

I'd assume that if you're not allowed characters that replicate themselves then you wouldn't allow other characters to create people/animals/things to fight for them (which is very different from GL or Quasar constructs)

GO GET THEM MASTER DAN!

You didn't like my sig but you've still got a good head on your shoulders!

Originally posted by Psyquis52
GO GET THEM MASTER DAN!

You didn't like my sig but you've still got a good head on your shoulders!

*Bows respectfully*

Originally posted by Master Dan
Hey man, I just read a little of the tourney threads and i'm sure someone said that replicating powers were banned..... like for some guy called animal man, someone else said no duplicating

I'm talking more about pulling some random cannon fodder at will rather than making clones of oneself.

so, can he pull af copies out of his purse . . .?

i think he has coins with all of alpha flight in his purse that when he draws them it produces alpha flight.

Been done. Kahn, Val, and Digi let him in. 😐

hey more power to ya! Im not in the tourney but i would hate to be the team taking on all of alpha flight and then some.

By the way, Captain Atom is Batdude's pick.

Thanks DC 👆

1. Newjak/Blair Wind -
G.L. Kyle Rayner (BW) ,
Shaman (Team)

2. Leo/Kahn -
Silver Surfer (Team) ,
G.L. Hal Jordan (Kahn)

3. Batdude/DC -
Magneto (Team) ,
Captain Atom (Batdude)

4. AW/Accel -
Quasar (AW) ,
Ronan the Accuser (Accel)

5. GF/Psyquis -
Cyborg Superman (GF) ,
Thor (??)

6. DL/Superherovandal -
Gladiator (Team) ,
Martian Manhunter (SHV)

7. Ethereal/Marvelgeek -
Black Bolt (??)

8. AJ/Sam Z -
Majestic (??) ,
Black Adam (??)