New Avengers #20

Y'know, the Sentry does have a habit of throwing things into the sun. Imagine if after being thrown into the sun, the Void and the Collective combined into one being and came back.

The Sun is the Sentry's own personalised waste paper basket

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Y'know, the Sentry [b]does have a habit of throwing things into the sun. Imagine if after being thrown into the sun, the Void and the Collective combined into one being and came back. [/B]

Cap: Wolverine is going wild again.

Sentry: I can throw him into the sun.

Cap: Bring it on.

I was kinda dissapointed with this issue. I think im one of the few here that actually enjoys NA. I expected all mutants to regain their poweres at the end of this storyline but NO!. What was that that they threw in the sun? the mutant powers? just Xorn? But im glad that Magneto hopefully regained his powers. We all know he aint dead. I would like to see "Quake" as one of the Avengers.

Originally posted by ScarletSpider
We're just going to agree to disagree.

I've enjoyed Bendis' work in the past, but I don't think he's done anything of merit on New Avengers. Having Luke Cage stand on his soapbox for half an issue was boring. The Collective's debut was a waste of an issue. he hasn't gotten any characterization right in New Avengers it seems. He killed Alpha Flight for no reason (this is a bit of a fanboy reason for my disliking his work, but whatever). House of M was sub-par. Secret War was boring. His Ultimate Spider-Man has gone down hill in quality and towards the end their his Daredevil failed to preform. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm just Bendised-out, he came on so strong and so fast and now I'm just tired of him.

And I still say Ellis wouldn't be right for Avengers. Again, maybe that's just me. He could write Stormwatch and Authority because he took it from the beginning and was able to make it weird and put his ideas in it. I would be interested to see him do a project with the Vision and maybe some of the weirder Avengers, but I think on the team ensemble, I wouldn't really have faith in him. Who knows, if it happens one day, I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

"and towards the end their his Daredevil failed to preform"

wrong here

I've been on the Millar side for awhile, King KAM, and I enjoy it infinitely 🙂

"and towards the end their his Daredevil failed to preform"

wrong here

The last arc, The Murdock Papers, good stuff. The one before that, I think it was, with the Daredevil support group and the Jester puking out creepy ninja shit was just dumb.

Originally posted by ScarletSpider
I've enjoyed Bendis' work in the past, but I don't think he's done anything of merit on New Avengers. Having Luke Cage stand on his soapbox for half an issue was boring. The Collective's debut was a waste of an issue. he hasn't gotten any characterization right in New Avengers it seems. He killed Alpha Flight for no reason (this is a bit of a fanboy reason for my disliking his work, but whatever). House of M was sub-par. Secret War was boring. His Ultimate Spider-Man has gone down hill in quality and towards the end their his Daredevil failed to preform. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm just Bendised-out, he came on so strong and so fast and now I'm just tired of him.

House of M was only intended as an X-men/Avengers crossover at first so I didn't expect too much from that. I loved Secret War, I thought he had quite a handle on all of the characters. I'm still enjoying Ultimate Spidey but I agree his work on Daredevil started to decline. I loved New Avengers but the last arc was something of a let down for me. I think the next arc is gonna be awesome though so I'm still gonna stick around.

Originally posted by ScarletSpider
And I still say Ellis wouldn't be right for Avengers. Again, maybe that's just me. He could write Stormwatch and Authority because he took it from the beginning and was able to make it weird and put his ideas in it. I would be interested to see him do a project with the Vision and maybe some of the weirder Avengers, but I think on the team ensemble, I wouldn't really have faith in him. Who knows, if it happens one day, I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Completely agree. I do not see Ellis working on the Avengers

Originally posted by ScarletSpider
That's why I simply quit buying it. I think if everyone who felt the way you did dropped the book, and everyone with a Bendis Boner read the book from a fresh perspective and got around the name recognition, they'd drop it too, and Marvel would have to revamp or cancel it because of sales.

There was nothing wrong with the old Avengers. Aside from the fact that they let Johns leave.

I thought the old Avengers were boring. Some of the Busiek run had really good stories but the Austen and Johns run had me bored. I was skeptical about AvDissed but I liked it and New Avengers started off really great for me. Now its still pretty good but definitely not Bendis' best

Originally posted by ScarletSpider
I've been on the Millar side for awhile, King KAM, and I enjoy it infinitely 🙂

The last arc, The Murdock Papers, good stuff. The one before that, I think it was, with the Daredevil support group and the Jester puking out creepy ninja shit was just dumb.

Millers pretty good, although you cant expect any cutting edge dialogue or realistic character development. In many ways, Bendis and Miller are opposites. 🙂

Originally posted by marvelprince

Completely agree. I do not see Ellis working on the Avengers

Have you read his Authority or Planetary.... IMO he's perfect for the Avengers. I'd love to see Iron man, With Drummer/Enginerr powers. I think Namor or Thor could the next Elijah Snow, and it would be good to see Wolverine or Dare Devil as 'Hardcore' as the Midknighter. Imagine Strange performing the Doctor level feats, and Warbird with same badass persona as Jenny Sparks. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Have you read his Authority or Planetary.... IMO he's perfect for the Avengers. I'd love to see Iron man, With Drummer/Enginerr powers. I think Namor or Thor could the next Elijah Snow, and it would be good to see Wolverine or Dare Devil as 'Hardcore' as the Midknighter. Imagine Strange performing the Doctor level feats, and Warbird with same badass persona as Jenny Sparks. 🙂

Why not just go read more Authority comics then? ... 🙄

Originally posted by Scoobless
Why not just go read more Authority comics then? ... 🙄

Because Authority has been shit since Ellis left ! 🙂

Then re-read the older stuff ... 😛

Originally posted by Scoobless
Then re-read the older stuff ... 😛

He only wrote 12 issues. 🙂

So it wont take you that long then.... go re-read it.... twice .... 😐

Well ...collective ended anticlimactically.

They honestly could have done some cool stuff with it , but nope. Let's all blame it on Xorn....

I doubt that it's actually finished

Millers pretty good, although you cant expect any cutting edge dialogue or realistic character development. In many ways, Bendis and Miller are opposites.

But I can expect an entertaining story where something happens every issue. And if you've read New Avengers, I don't see how you can cite that Bendis has given anyone realistic character development.

Have you read his Authority or Planetary.... IMO he's perfect for the Avengers. I'd love to see Iron man, With Drummer/Enginerr powers. I think Namor or Thor could the next Elijah Snow, and it would be good to see Wolverine or Dare Devil as 'Hardcore' as the Midknighter. Imagine Strange performing the Doctor level feats, and Warbird with same badass persona as Jenny Sparks.

Then it's not Avengers is it? It's the Authority with different costumes.