Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Have you read his Authority or Planetary.... IMO he's perfect for the Avengers. I'd love to see Iron man, With Drummer/Enginerr powers. I think Namor or Thor could the next Elijah Snow, and it would be good to see Wolverine or Dare Devil as 'Hardcore' as the Midknighter. Imagine Strange performing the Doctor level feats, and Warbird with same badass persona as Jenny Sparks. 🙂
I have read his Authority work and I liked it, but his Ultimate Fantastic Four was awful. I agree with ScarletSpider when he said he only does really well with teams he started with.
BTW, I would hate to Avengers as Authority counterparts. No thank you
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
What made them so horrible?
Arc 2: Doom (#7-12) by Warren Ellis and Stuart Immonen
Introduces Ultimate Dr. Doom, who attempts to kill Reed along with the
rest of the four using tiny insectoid robots manufactured from cell phone
parts.
I think that answers your question...
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Has anybody read NA 21? I just picked it up, and thought it was freakin awesome....But the artwork made me puke.
Some of the diolouge for Falcon annoyed me as he was shown as this jive talking black hero, when he NEVER talks like that.
Its just like Bendis got lazy and decided to write Faclon as an idiot 😒
Originally posted by ScarletSpiderThen it's not Avengers is it? It's the Authority with different costumes.
No all i mean is that he can handle teams very well, and is good at producing characters that are interesting to read .... Something that Brusiek couldn't hope to achieve in his wildest dreams. 🙂
Originally posted by marvelprince
I have read his Authority work and I liked it, but his Ultimate Fantastic Four was awful. I agree with ScarletSpider when he said he only does really well with teams he started with.BTW, I would hate to Avengers as Authority counterparts. No thank you
I'm my opinion his Authority work is good, but Planetary is on another level. Don't tell me you wouldn't like to see Thor depicted like Elijah snow ? 😄
P.S. Ellis is rumored to be writing the new Thor serries. 🙂
Originally posted by Scoobless
The Doom story? it wasn't that bad.... fair enough they changed doom to be more like movie doom with the metal skin.... but having him be poor wasn't a big deal, he comes back soon and it seems he's doing better for himself
Indeed ... I was alot more interested in goat like Doom than i was Pagan/Kang, during the apparently legendary Brusiek run. 😄
The problem with Ultimate FF4, is that its unlikely to be ever the writers priority. For example both Millers and Bendis work on it doesn't really compare to their respective Ultimate Spider man/X men work. Which is why i dropped the book some time ago. If anything i think the series has suffered, as it was originally set to be written by Morrison, by he left at the last minute for an exclusive D.C. contract. 🙂
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Indeed ... I was alot more interested in goat like Doom than i was Pagan/Kang, during the apparently legendary Brusiek run. 😄The problem with Ultimate FF4, is that its unlikely to be ever the writers priority. For example both Millers and Bendis work on it doesn't really compare to their respective Ultimate Spider man/X men work. Which is why i dropped the book some time ago. If anything i think the series has suffered, as it was originally set to be written by Morrison, by he left at the last minute for an exclusive D.C. contract. 🙂
I didn't like Busiek's run all that much either, but I couldn't stand Goat Doom. Come on, colven hooves?
I agree with what your saying too. UFF is treated like the ugly sister of the Ultimate books. Show it some love writers
Originally posted by marvelprince
I didn't like Busiek's run all that much either, but I couldn't stand Goat Doom. Come on, colven hooves?I agree with what your saying too. UFF is treated like the ugly sister of the Ultimate books. Show it some love writers
I agree at some extend. I hated what they did to Doom initially but he seem fine now. Lately it hasne been too bad and Greg Lands artwork is simpy amazing.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Some of the diolouge for Falcon annoyed me as he was shown as this jive talking black hero, when he NEVER talks like that.Its just like Bendis got lazy and decided to write Faclon as an idiot 😒
I agree. I dont see why McNieven didnt do this issue too. The artwork was horrendous.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Some of the diolouge for Falcon annoyed me as he was shown as this jive talking black hero, when he NEVER talks like that.Its just like Bendis got lazy and decided to write Faclon as an idiot 😒
Now that I think about it, that is annoying. "Ya dig?" WTF? 🤨
Still a good issue, though.
Originally posted by Scoobless
The Doom story? it wasn't that bad.... fair enough they changed doom to be more like movie doom with the metal skin.... but having him be poor wasn't a big deal, he comes back soon and it seems he's doing better for himself
I just reread 7-12
My thoughts :
What I Disliked
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[*]Vlad Tepes relation - What the ? ..Ok i guess it makes him more 'europian' but still stating that doom is related to Dracula is kinda odd..
[*]The hooves - Ok , we get it. Tepes = Son of satan . Very funny , now wheres the real bad-ass doomness
[*]Sue constantly mentioning that she and reed make out - You like swapping spit , good for you now get on with the damn story.
[*]Doom's rocket launcher - WHAT THE HELL !!! , Doom does NOT pull a goddamn rocket launcher out of his coat and fire upon the F4 !!!
[*]Dragon Tattoo - ENOUGH OF THE DAMN DRACULA REFERENCES !!!
[*]Some of the artwork - Part's looked ..'iffy' , noticeably in reed and Ben's conversation Ben's ability to go to 'go to the bathroom'
[*]Hogwarts mention - This is F4, not harry potter . End of story
[*]Doom's constantly changing hair colour - Blonde then black ..wha-huh ?
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Things I liked
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[*]Dialogue - It was quite smooth and realistic , with a few joeks placed here and their on most pages 👆
[*]Ben and Johhny ribbing on the Fantasticar - The name (In retrospect) does sound really silly...
[*]Doom's powers - The quills were a little weird , but still pretty decent . The poison gas I like for some reason...i have no idea why ? If we could add in the electro-kinetic powers his movie counterpart had we might actually have a threat in the form of Ultimate Doom
[*]Origin's of Clobbering time - Nice touch
[*]Doom's 'legacy' - The constant mumbling of the bloodlines was intriguing , as was his abuse at the hands of his farther
[*]Doom's Crazy - This was a nice counter balance to the usually calm and collected doom of 616 , the ranting was good to.
[*]Reed's missing organs - It makes sense , after all how the hell would his body be able to stretch ?
[*]Reed's mention of the think tank members - The sight of a guy sitting in the middle of a particloe accelerator playing a banjo makes me laugh...
[*]Doom's robot's - Ok ..they do suck. But the idea behind the 'impalement' and the cannibalization of the parts was unique
[*]Ben's threat of the soldier - "I knocked out a frickin sea-monster , what are you going to do soldier boy" 👆
[*]Tattoo - The idea behind it was pretty neat...
[*]Sue getting nosebleeds - much like reed's powers it makes sense
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