Unfortunately, Superman Returns Is Just Super-Bad. Here's Why.

Started by BlackC@11 pages

Brandon Routh is not gay. Grow up.

Originally posted by Draco69
It's a SUPERHERO movie. Again. It's meant to be silly.

Why people were expecting Schiendler's List is beyond me.

Moviephiles are almost as a harsh as musicphiles on movies. Movies aren't...movies to them. They're not entertainment. If they were, they wouldn't be taken so seriously and be subject to essays enumerating on the numerous flaws of the movie. Which is sad...

I agree.

In anything people do--any hobby, anything they do for entertainment--there are some people who will always suck the "fun" out of it in some way.

Just watch the movie like it's supposed to be--for entertainment.

What if a movie isn't entertaining to someone? Are you supposed to find something you like about it just so you can be like everyone else?

i kinda agree with Dr. Zaius. Seriously guys...wen u walked in the movie Theatre....weren't u expecting an action packed film....or something of that nature....i was really expecting this movie to beat Batman Begins....but in the end i was disapointed. Don't get me wrong...i liked the very few action sequences that they had....without those..i would have hated the movie....but Bryan Singer could have done better... i hope the second movie is more of wat i expected...well i guess we have to wait and see....

I hear Superman Returns is doing quite badly at the box office.

Originally posted by C-Dic
What if a movie isn't entertaining to someone? Are you supposed to find something you like about it just so you can be like everyone else?

No. I phrased what I said wrong. It sounded accusatory.

What I mean is, I think I, as a casual moviegoer and a casual Superman fan, I can enjoy the movie more than somebody who, say, is a hardcore movie or Superman fan. I can watch it simply as entertainment, while one of these other fans will, for lack of a better word, pick out or notice more things that, in their opinion, detract from the movie.

Originally posted by Up In Flames

5. i plan on squatting 450 at the gym tomorrow so that part where he lifted the organic land mass was very inspiring
Do you max at 450? Or work out with it?

Superman has never been just about action
Older audiences that know and love the older superman movies, could understand this.
But the younger generation( mind u,I'm not talking about everyone) is used to seeing action sequence after action sequence. So i'll just listen to them gripping about the lack of action and just think, " Oh u are such a child, grow up!!!............. hopefully"

Originally posted by fini
Superman has never been just about action
Older audiences that know and love the older superman movies, could understand this.
But the younger generation( mind u,I'm not talking about everyone) is used to seeing action sequence after action sequence. So i'll just listen to them gripping about the lack of action and just think, " Oh u are such a child, grow up!!!............. hopefully"

Holy Sh!t!
If I wanted to see a horrible love story taken a sad turn I would go see a Hugh Grant film! This film spent too much time with the Lois/superman BS. Superman an superheros in general are about ACTION an to go light on the action in such a movie is a F-ing sin! How can you be so ignorant?
An what little action that was there wasnt that impressive

😐 Three decades pass and the best they could come up with for a villainous plan was another real estate scheme.

Originally posted by fini
Superman has never been just about action
Older audiences that know and love the older superman movies, could understand this.
But the younger generation( mind u,I'm not talking about everyone) is used to seeing action sequence after action sequence. So i'll just listen to them gripping about the lack of action and just think, " Oh u are such a child, grow up!!!............. hopefully"

Yes, I'm sure that's all well and good. Does your generation of "higher" film criticism also notice when films have no coherent story arch or get bogged down in boring irrelevancies?

That a film have nothing but mindless action sequences is not one of my prerequisites for enjoying trip to the movies. However, this film, which is ostensibly a hero/action piece, had such a conspicuous lack of things going on, that it not only disappointed my genre expectations, but nearly slipped into that special realm of mind-numbing crowd-pleasers as "A.I." and "Phantom Menace". Did your higher critical mind also discern the deeper, hidden meaning behind the lack of action and coherence in those films as well?

The bedrock of issue of Superman Returns, just as in all films, is whether or not it has a compelling story. Forget the question of whether it has "action" or not. Perhaps the better and more comprehensive question is, "Is the narrative engaging?" If the story fails to grab or engage the viewer, then what's the point?

Originally posted by NPC
Holy Sh!t!
If I wanted to see a horrible love story taken a sad turn I would go see a Hugh Grant film! This film spent too much time with the Lois/superman BS. Superman an superheros in general are about ACTION an to go light on the action in such a movie is a F-ing sin! How can you be so ignorant?
An what little action that was there wasnt that impressive

Amen, brother.

Originally posted by fini
Superman has never been just about action
Older audiences that know and love the older superman movies, could understand this.
But the younger generation( mind u,I'm not talking about everyone) is used to seeing action sequence after action sequence. So i'll just listen to them gripping about the lack of action and just think, " Oh u are such a child, grow up!!!............. hopefully"

Oh yes, I nearly forgot. I hope one day that I can grow up, join the pantheon of higher film critics, and learn to appreciate bad movies like fini. Maybe, one day...

Originally posted by BlackC@
Brandon Routh is not gay. Grow up.

Not that it matters, but Singer is, big time.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Do you max at 450? Or work out with it?

450? Is that all? I warm up with that weight on the curling bar...witih my mind. Dr. Zaius eats guys like you for lunch.

I kinda agree with Dr. Zaius.

I expected more from "Superman Returns". I expected more from the film; everyone.

I especially didn't like the "Superman's son" idea.

After watching "Superman Returns", I got my fill of it, but I left the theatre with my cinematic appetite for the movie unsatisfied.

Superman, don't return again unless you sign a S. Raimi or something.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I kinda agree with Dr. Zaius.

I expected more from "Superman Returns". I expected more from the film; everyone.

I especially didn't like the "Superman's son" idea.

After watching "Superman Returns", I got my fill of it, but I left the theatre with my cinematic appetite for the movie unsatisfied.

Superman, don't return again unless you sign a S. Raimi or something.

Don't be afraid to agree with Dr. Zaius, FistOfTheNorth. He just happens to be right about this film. Of course, he's seldom wrong. And with Superman Returns tanking at the box office, and scores of WB executives and middle management slitting their wrists right about now, your prescient and well-formed opinion will be corroborated by the millions of Americans not going to see this film.

The initial knee-jerk response to defend the movie on this site was generated by hard-core Superman fans, who were willing to give the thumbs up to anything with a big, red "S" on it, no matter what the quality. Those that are going to see the film only now, the non hard-cores, or those who have started to get the bad word-of-mouth back from their friends, will not be administering such positive reviews.

Stand firm, brother. You may stand with Dr. Zaius as his right-hand fist any day.

Thanks for voicing your opinion Dr. I'm still going to see it because I'm getting hooked up w/ free tickets. The mod who downrated your opinion is notorious for being a guy who whines unless your post looks like "OMFG!!! Superman & Batman ruuuuuuuuule!!!!!! GO DC Yaaaaaaaaay!" Learn to ignore him and you'll be OK

Originally posted by brainchild81
Thanks for voicing your opinion Dr. I'm still going to see it because I'm getting hooked up w/ free tickets. The mod who downrated your opinion is notorious for being a guy who whines unless your post looks like "OMFG!!! Superman & Batman ruuuuuuuuule!!!!!! GO DC Yaaaaaaaaay!" Learn to ignore him and you'll be OK

Thanks for the post, Moon Knight. I'm not too stressed about it. BTW, I'd go see the movie, if I were in your position too--especially considering the free ticket angle. Its one of those movies you almost have to see, just like all of the recent Star Wars flics. Just be prepared not to be blown away.

I saw it

Good
The special affects were perfect.
When Supes was accually in it it looked so good.
OK!! Story, the movie wasn't bad at all it was just Average. Batman Begins was better to me eek. I think it was better than Spidey because Spidey sorta sucked.

Bad
To much love story like every otherSuperhero movie which gets annoying. It is the same love story too, nothing different.

Characters were out of character(Supes did a good job and lex did one too)

I didn't like the kid idea(some people might so not really hurting the review)

bad guy was lex yet again, and it gets annoying because the only action anything happens in the movie is..Something falls, Supes catches it and the music plays..over and over again. Supes need a freaking bad guy that will knock his ass into the sun then supes punches him into another planet eeek.