Originally posted by GODOFALL1
A counter point? There is no reason for me to give a counter point. This is just like someone saying The Matrix was a BAD movie or Spiderman was a BAD movie. You're an idiot......period. Don't say dumb things, and I wont have a reason to call you an idiot. 🙂
I told you stop and you continue to flame. Enough have temp ban for now.
I never saw the originals, so maybe I had different standards going in, but even though this movie wasn't perfect, I thought it was excellent- very entertaining- and that it was a nice homage/reintroduction to Superman.
As someone who was basically new to the Superman franchise, I was pleasantly surprised by how fully I was able to follow the movie and all the Superman background. My personal favorite explanation was how Kryptonite got it's name- I knew enough about Superman to know about Kryptonite- but could never understand why his home planet and his Achilles Heel shared the same name. I thought maybe they just used "Krypt-" as their prefix for everything, like "Valmorphanize" in Team America. But nope- its the radioactive planet.
Other comments-
- I LOVED the music (saw it in IMAX, where you can feel, as well as hear, the awesome score)
- OK, i have to agree that I thought Lois Lane was kind of/really lame- she just didn't really stand out in any way. When Superman zooms by the plane window, you'd think she'd react. Even just a little. Like, maybe eyes widening in surprise or disbelief. No? Well, ok, I guess...
- Brandon Routh did an incredible job with his role. I don't care if it wasn't original, if he was copying Reeves, it was great. Clark Kent was adorable in his reactions, and he played Superman with a confidence that was remarkable, more so when you consider that this was his first big role.
- Jimmy Olson was fantastic. I don't even know how to describe it excatly, except that he's just what you'd expect (at least what I expected).
Originally posted by epicadventure
I never saw the originals, so maybe I had different standards going in, but even though this movie wasn't perfect, I thought it was excellent- very entertaining- and that it was a nice homage/reintroduction to Superman.As someone who was basically new to the Superman franchise, I was pleasantly surprised by how fully I was able to follow the movie and all the Superman background. My personal favorite explanation was how Kryptonite got it's name- I knew enough about Superman to know about Kryptonite- but could never understand why his home planet and his Achilles Heel shared the same name. I thought maybe they just used "Krypt-" as their prefix for everything, like "Valmorphanize" in Team America. But nope- its the radioactive planet.
Other comments-
- I LOVED the music (saw it in IMAX, where you can feel, as well as hear, the awesome score)
- OK, i have to agree that I thought Lois Lane was kind of/really lame- she just didn't really stand out in any way. When Superman zooms by the plane window, you'd think she'd react. Even just a little. Like, maybe eyes widening in surprise or disbelief. No? Well, ok, I guess...
- Brandon Routh did an incredible job with his role. I don't care if it wasn't original, if he was copying Reeves, it was great. Clark Kent was adorable in his reactions, and he played Superman with a confidence that was remarkable, more so when you consider that this was his first big role.
- Jimmy Olson was fantastic. I don't even know how to describe it excatly, except that he's just what you'd expect (at least what I expected).
Originally posted by MattDay
man you guys read into things too much, whenever did the original superman films seem correct? so many things that were wrong or he did in a way which wouldn't happen because it would melt or bend... my god get a life guys... and fast because I'd shoot people who dribble on about something normal people don't even realise as something that bad until you open your mouth or type it into a forum where you cant get punched in the head... lucky you!
Oh yeah, I just went back and found this little gem by MattDay, who more or less stated that he wanted to shoot people like me--or at least punch them in the head--who have the temerity to point out inconvenient little things that disrupt his Candy Land-type universe. Sorry, Matt.
I guess I am "lucky" to be on a discussion forum and not on an Ultimate Fighting queue, lest I tempt your terrible Anglo wrath in person. After all, that is what the Brits are known for, right? Bare knuckled brawling and ass-kicking! Memories of "The Transporter" are flooding over me now, sending a shudder down my spine.
MattDay, Dr. Zaius prescribes two Zanexs for you plus a year of anger management counseling with Dr. Phil.
I must say that I profoundly disagree with you're dismantling of the film Dr Zau-head. I loved it. But You as I are entiltled to your opinion, so i will not insult you. The iconic shots, great action scenes and Routh reminding me of Reeves, taking me back to the reason I fell in love with supes, and all comicbook heros in first place, was enough for me.
Re: Unfortunately, Superman Returns Is Just Super-Bad. Here's Why.
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
OK. Everyone release their collective breath. This movie is absolutely unforgivable! Not just disappointing, not just average, but terrible! As expected, the CGI was great--good thing too, because the story was nonexistent. Nonetheless, an iconic screen shot here and there does not a movie make. Here are but a few of the problems:1. The need for Superman's return is necessitated by the hero's 5 year leave of absence from earth, during which time, he presumably travels to Krypton in order to confirm its destruction. I say "presumably" since we never get to see any of this search, only a rehashed CGI effect of Krypton exploding. If you're going to use a return to Krypton as a plot device--and its an intriguing idea--develop it! Dont' leave it hanging there like an unzipped fly.
2. Lex Luthor is about as threatening as Star Jones in a verbal joust with Barbara Walters. The movie opens with him swindling an old widow out of her fortune. Are you shaking in your boots yet? Isn't this guy supposed to be the smartest guy on the planet? Sigh...I suppose the screenwriters, out of some misguided desire to one-up Hackman's original performance, decided complete emasculation of Superman's nemesis was the only route to go. Kudos on that guys! Oh yeah, and in case you missed the point that this guy has no penis, the movie made sure to show Parker Posey literally dump his "crystals" into the ocean. At least that was less painful than witnessing the relentless zinging of the movie's villain with "you're bald" jokes.
3. Lois Lane and Routh are as flat as pancakes. There is no emotional depth to the characters at all. I guess the writers realized this when they were penning the script because, a la "Family Ties", "The Cosby Show", "Phantom Menace", or "Full House", they decided to hide their faltering story by turning Lois Lane's 5 year old kid into a major character. As expected, this was typical bait and switch. Bring out the kid everytime we need a tear. And, for extra effect, lets make him speech impaired and only utter things like "Mommy, will he get better? I want him to get better."
Get my gun.4. Luthor's plan to destroy Superman starts off well--steal Kryptonian technology and use it to conquer the world and kill Superman--but leaves something to be desired in the execution. Luthor uses a crystal from the Fortress of Solitude to create a new continent--one based on the crystaline geology of Krypton. OK, so far. What now? Build some kick-ass Kryptonian weapons? Revive some long-dormant Kryptonian A.I. that runs amok? Build a suit of Kryptonian battle armor to give Supes a run for his money? None of the above. If you said, kick back, smoke a cigar and play a couple of hands of No-Limit Texas Hold-Em, you'd be more on the right track. Yawn...
5. What else? Oh yeah. Lois has a live-in boyfriend played by X-Men's James Marsden. If only they had let Marsden unleash a well-placed optic blast to eleviate the mind-numbing boredom of watching him squirm from one insecurity complex to the next. I guess I can't blame the guy. If I knew my girlfriend's ex was the last son of Krypton, I'd probably be a little uneasy too. However, all sympathy for the character quickly evaporates as he is remorselessly turned into a Women's Sensitivity Seminar Poster Boy.
6. In the end, I didn't know what to be irritated by the most--the film's inability to engage me in any way by the story, or its heavy-handed attempts to endorse some limp-d--k vision of the sensitive, modern man.
There has been some recent attention surrounding the question, "Is Superman Returns a gay film"? I don't think "gay" quite hits the mark on this one. Rather, terms like "limp", "flacid",and "impotent" come to mind.
Agreed, agreed, agreed and agreed.
Routh would have made a nice Superboy, but Man of Steel? Give me a break - the only believable scene in the movie was where he was getting the crap kicked out of him by the Main Man himself, Luthor, the Saviour of Mankind.
I, unfortunately, greatly though I do admire the esteemed Mr Luthor himself (but then, who doesn't?) have to agree, as well, that the movie made him out to much more of a sideshow, a somehow humorous villain, which I suppose they had to do, to make Superman even somewhat believable as a challenge.
But this was a joke.
Instead of harder, faster, meaner, stronger and tougher, I felt like I was stuck is some "Pleasantville" dimension, where bad guys are cute, tough guys are sensitive and strong guys get their asses handed to them.
Superwimp.
He should have stayed dead. Or on his planet. He ain't wanted, and he's definitely not needed.
Get some balls, man!
The whole point is the person that strated this forum said the movie was SUPERBAD. Do you know what superbad means? That means it sucked. And there is no way it sucked. It may have lacked certain qualities but the movie was good. SUPERBAD? You want to know superbad movies?
The Village
The LifeAquatic
Open Water
Million Dollar Baby
HellRaiser Deader
Those are SuperBad. ANd superman returns was WAYYYYY better than any of those. Superman REturns was not superbad.
super good, one of the best superhero movies so far... that IS argueable because it got a lot of 5 outta 5's, when i looked at it's review on amazon (i know it isnt out on dvd, but people who have seen it are reviewing it from the cinema) it has got the same rating as spiderman and spiderman 2, so from that source it's roughly the same in overall quality... it isn't bad at all... keep the peace dudes! (and dudettes)
This is the most super, best, beautiful, dramatic, charming, enthralling, interesting, fantastic, award-deserving, movie I have watched in a long time. I am hoping that this wins an oscar for Brandon Routh who is definitely a shoo-in for the award. Its definitely a blockbuster movie! It's better than Titanic and SpiderMan combined in the Box office! My heart is still pounding from the action scenes in the movie! This will probably go down as this century's best movie ever!
Brainchild, Million Dollar Baby was a good deal better than Superman Returns? 🤨 Million Dollar Baby SUCKED!! What a horrible, horrible movie. Lets have a female boxer get ripped off, then spend the last hour of the movie watching her slowly suffer, have her leg removed, and then die. And her family? OMG! Worst movie EVER! Superman REturns was wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyy better.
yeah I fell asleep during million Dollar baby too.. 😮
wow..Superman Returns still gets my heart racing when I watch it, I saw it again last night for the 5th time and I still get goose bumps, seriously I think the director of POTC knew it wasn't going to be a good movie so they released it the same week as Superman Returns so that all the fans of the first movie would go see it instead of Superman Returns, because I recently saw Pirates and nothing was really memorable, or funny it wasn't original at all. Basically all the same jokes as the first one. I hated it. Superman Returns is a much better film and I enjoyed fully and will see it again in theatres without a doubt.